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Prflyer
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reluctantartist
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Location: Bloomington, IN
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Look here ....it will give you all the info you want to know....
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3...er+special
I am awaiting to see how it goes ... hopefully he will get over and get it dyno'd later and see what it is doing. I think this will be my next engine.
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1982 Westy, 1974 412 Variant... Yes, Aircooled's are great! Oh and I do have modern computer controlled vehicles too, but I just don't care about them. |
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Prflyer
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Joined: November 21, 2008
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Location: Puerto Rico
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| I like my aircooled 2.0.... and so far it seems no less reliable than the water boxer motors from what I read on here. I don't think swapping is too bad an idea especially if you plan on building a camper special engine at some point. |
pardon my newbiness  , what do you mean by camper special engine?
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reluctantartist
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I like my aircooled 2.0.... and so far it seems no less reliable than the water boxer motors from what I read on here. I don't think swapping is too bad an idea especially if you plan on building a camper special engine at some point.
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Alan Brase
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Joined: March 28, 2004
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Location: Cedar Falls, Iowa
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| My sentiments exactly, Dan. And thanks, I didn't think it was such a bad idea either. If I wanted heat, A/C, power, handling and towing capacity, I wouldn't buy a Vanagon at all. I'm just a die-hard VW fan that enjoys the "SIMPLER" and more traditional VWs. No disrespect to any of my VW comrades here. I wouldn't mind seeing your pics if you'd like to post them. |
well said and nice to hear just that. i have went as far as thinking about puting a stand up motor in a vanagon  |
Gee, perhaps if a air cooled is a good idea, maybe we should go to a 36 hp? They were so neat and dinky.
Seriously, I have 6 Vanagons and really like driving the 80 more than the others, but reliability is not too good on the 2.0 air cooled engines either.
BTW, the stock engine location of a waterboxer will move the engine 2 inches rearward. It's all in the front tranny mount, but you'll have to change the linkage, too.
Al
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Projects: 67 sunroof bug, 67 Porsche 912 Targa, 70 Westy
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Prflyer
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Joined: November 21, 2008
Posts: 71
Location: Puerto Rico
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| Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:48 am Post subject: |
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| My sentiments exactly, Dan. And thanks, I didn't think it was such a bad idea either. If I wanted heat, A/C, power, handling and towing capacity, I wouldn't buy a Vanagon at all. I'm just a die-hard VW fan that enjoys the "SIMPLER" and more traditional VWs. No disrespect to any of my VW comrades here. I wouldn't mind seeing your pics if you'd like to post them. |
well said and nice to hear just that. i have went as far as thinking about puting a stand up motor in a vanagon  we traditional  guys are geting fewer and fewer the last 3 or 4 yrs, i have  trying to figure why  btw i had a very nice silver 54 back in 99 |
be prepared be prepared!
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devesvws
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Location: madison va
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| My sentiments exactly, Dan. And thanks, I didn't think it was such a bad idea either. If I wanted heat, A/C, power, handling and towing capacity, I wouldn't buy a Vanagon at all. I'm just a die-hard VW fan that enjoys the "SIMPLER" and more traditional VWs. No disrespect to any of my VW comrades here. I wouldn't mind seeing your pics if you'd like to post them. |
well said and nice to hear just that. i have went as far as thinking about puting a stand up motor in a vanagon we traditional guys are geting fewer and fewer the last 3 or 4 yrs, i have trying to figure why btw i had a very nice silver 54 back in 99
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THE FEW THE PROUD THE ORIGINAL VW WATERBOXER -> looking for a original 91 vanagon owners manual with 1991 on the cover http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmuiG2tUsP4&feature=share https://picasaweb.google.com/101290228103300323836/BostonBobFlywheelVideo#5543000332201103922 |
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oasis
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Most siggies are so stupid -- like mine -- I ignore them.  Sorry.
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tencentlife
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Could happen, but for now that ad there brings me what I can handle.
I had no idea how to respond to that post.
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tclark
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sgtpepper
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| even better, diesel oxyboxer....yeah, i vote for that... |
If you build it, everyone will cum.
Oops, was I bad? |
not just everyone on the samba, but everyone...in THE WHOLE WORLD.
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Prflyer
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Location: Puerto Rico
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Samba is rough, good but rough
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1980 Fiat Spider
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MrPolak
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You can do it, but why? Ok, you think air-cooled engines are better, but at what? Stirring your soul, yes, but pushing a 4000lb brick through the atmosphere, no.
For one, you'll have a heck of a time sealing the engine cooling tins in the engine compartment, because they are different. Then there's the FI system, harness, transmission, heating ... ayayay! Just buy a tencentlife motor and be done with it. Or get a bostig conversion and fly! |
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Volksbulli
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| even better, diesel oxyboxer....yeah, i vote for that... |
If you build it, everyone will cum.
Oops, was I bad? |
Pffrt Pffrt! Oops!
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Prflyer
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| I don't think anyone here is saying it won't work and can't be done and that you need air conditioning. I think they are saying that if you want an aircooled Vanagon you can pick one up cheap, vs. actually putting effort into killing the resale of a watercooled. If you are still just looking, why don't you look for what you want? Aircooled models are cheap, available, and still sellable down the road. |
man, you guys are lucky here in Puerto Rico its the opposite, few and hard to find! air or water cooled! the scene here its huge on bugs, but the van scene here is mainly split's the newer bunch never caught on until a few years ago, now people are just importing them in.
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1985 Westy AC converted from WC
1980 Fiat Spider
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1991 Mercedes Benz 190e
1986 BMW 325 es (sold)
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tencentlife
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| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| even better, diesel oxyboxer....yeah, i vote for that... |
If you build it, everyone will cum.
Oops, was I bad?
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Shop for unique and useful Vanagon accessories at the Vanistan shop:
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also available at VanCafe.com!
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Prflyer
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Location: Puerto Rico
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| My sentiments exactly, Dan. And thanks, I didn't think it was such a bad idea either. If I wanted heat, A/C, power, handling and towing capacity, I wouldn't buy a Vanagon at all. I'm just a die-hard VW fan that enjoys the "SIMPLER" and more traditional VWs. No disrespect to any of my VW comrades here. I wouldn't mind seeing your pics if you'd like to post them. |
sure, I will take some pics for you and post
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jalopyjockey
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| lets not forget the oxyboxer.....er even better, diesel oxyboxer....yeah, i vote for that... |
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iltis74
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| I don't think anyone here is saying it won't work and can't be done and that you need air conditioning. I think they are saying that if you want an aircooled Vanagon you can pick one up cheap, vs. actually putting effort into killing the resale of a watercooled. If you are still just looking, why don't you look for what you want? Aircooled models are cheap, available, and still sellable down the road. |
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vw54john
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My sentiments exactly, Dan. And thanks, I didn't think it was such a bad idea either. If I wanted heat, A/C, power, handling and towing capacity, I wouldn't buy a Vanagon at all. I'm just a die-hard VW fan that enjoys the "SIMPLER" and more traditional VWs. No disrespect to any of my VW comrades here. I wouldn't mind seeing your pics if you'd like to post them.
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