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airkooledchris Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| for me it's a case of why change from one orphaned engine to another, when Subarus are available. |
because custom wiring harnesses, custom radiators, custom exhausts, custom motor mounts.... (and on and on and on)
if money is no object, sure. or if your a seasoned Subaru mechanic with the proper tools/workspace/knowledge, sure.
if your just a regular bus owner looking for a little more power when it comes time to do your next rebuild - VW aircooled Type4 power with a few carefully selected parts upgrades will be the best bang for your buck. |
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Mal evolent Samba Member

Joined: March 31, 2009 Posts: 2924 Location: San Antonio, Nuevo Mexico
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:23 am Post subject: |
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for me it's a case of why change from one orphaned engine to another, when Subarus are available. _________________ 73 Beetle Baja, Ghia front brakes, Type 3 rear brakes, 2220 ( 94 X 80 ), Weber Progressive, Bosch SVDA, '97 Mustang seats
Baja Bugs for Volkswagen Virgins: Index |
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reluctantartist Samba Member
Joined: August 13, 2006 Posts: 1929 Location: Bloomington, IN
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:27 am Post subject: |
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Ok I am not against corvair engines, Iactually like them but I think people who are looking into them may have too high of expectations. The HP rating is much different than it is for the vw. They used gross HP on the engines. Take a look at the following link:
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/996-turbo-fo...track.html
If you follow the road & track formula it would equate out to the 85hp corvar~ 58hp, 110hp corvair ~ 75 hp, and the 140hp = 95. You can achieve the power of a 110 hp corvair with a few mods on the bus engine which is easier than a corvair conversion. I am not sure the 95 hp porsche style motor would be good to run in a bus so maybe the 140 would be a better candidate. _________________ 1982 Westy, 1974 412 Variant... Yes, Aircooled's are great! Oh and I do have modern computer controlled vehicles too, but I just don't care about them. |
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Busbodger Samba Member
Joined: July 08, 2012 Posts: 117 Location: Small Town, Tennessee
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Did the pictures ever popup somewhere for this thread?
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JSMskater Samba Grease Gorilla

Joined: February 01, 2006 Posts: 5362 Location: Murrieta California
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| This might be a silly question but when the motor is set up to rotate the other way, how is the oil pump flow direction dealt with? |
answered on page 2 or 3... _________________ 71 Squareback-FI -- 73 Bay (subaru powered)
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RatCamper Samba Member

Joined: November 13, 2008 Posts: 3305 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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This might be a silly question but when the motor is set up to rotate the other way, how is the oil pump flow direction dealt with? _________________ Vehicle: 1975 Special order delivery walkthrough panel based pop-top camper (LCA / Sunliner). Motor: Nippon 1.8L Single port Wasserboxer, Transmission: 3 rib 002. |
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Soviet1942 Samba Member

Joined: October 04, 2009 Posts: 397 Location: Miami, FL
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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bump for an update.  _________________ 1970 Adventurewagen Hightop "Penelope"
-Soon to have Focke Wulf 190 theme- |
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rustbus Samba Member

Joined: June 18, 2009 Posts: 2079 Location: alberta
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:52 am Post subject: |
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yeah no doubt - pictures are gone? I just read this thread the other day
A 6 cylinder turbo corvair engine with reverse rotation cam and adapter plate came up for sale locally, I hoped I could see what was all involved! _________________ May of '72 Deluxe. 2.0L L-Jet CS & 091 trans conversion
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Soviet1942 Samba Member

Joined: October 04, 2009 Posts: 397 Location: Miami, FL
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:35 am Post subject: |
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update this  _________________ 1970 Adventurewagen Hightop "Penelope"
-Soon to have Focke Wulf 190 theme- |
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Pierre G Samba Member

Joined: April 28, 2007 Posts: 1771 Location: New Caledonia
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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Nothing particular. It's just too bad that such an interesting conversion is now without pics . That's why I always upload my pics here on thesamba...  _________________ 1976 181/Thing, 1967 fastback, 1973 squareback, 1964 microbus, 1967 Double Cab, 1969 westfalia (currently under resto), 1972 LM1C dune buggy, 1974 jean's bug, 1974 1303 (super beetle, currently under reassembly after new paint). |
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EvilWerks Samba Member

Joined: August 16, 2007 Posts: 161 Location: Palmyra, PA
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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It looks like the FMBC site is down. I hope not permanently. That is a nice local site. _________________ Dr Evil, MD (Mike)
74 Bay being converted to 3.1L Corvair power and pop top
Link --> http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=345677 |
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EvilWerks Samba Member

Joined: August 16, 2007 Posts: 161 Location: Palmyra, PA
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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It looks like the FMBC where I was hosting the pics dumped them. I dont know why. Way too many to upload all of them now. I will get around to it someday (when I am not working 80 hours, or on the damn bus). I will just start a gallery here. Anything you want to see in particular I can see if I still have. _________________ Dr Evil, MD (Mike)
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Pierre G Samba Member

Joined: April 28, 2007 Posts: 1771 Location: New Caledonia
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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Very interesting thread but I can't see any of the pics, I have this message :
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404 Not Found
The server can not find the requested page:
fullmoonbusclub.com/e107_files/public/1265606166_1428_FT165103_img_0958.jpg (port 80)
Please forward this error screen to fullmoonbusclub.com's WebMaster.
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Am I the only one ? _________________ 1976 181/Thing, 1967 fastback, 1973 squareback, 1964 microbus, 1967 Double Cab, 1969 westfalia (currently under resto), 1972 LM1C dune buggy, 1974 jean's bug, 1974 1303 (super beetle, currently under reassembly after new paint). |
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EvilWerks Samba Member

Joined: August 16, 2007 Posts: 161 Location: Palmyra, PA
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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Well, the tranny is out, apart, and I see one issue with how somethings didnt work correctly inside (moved circlip). The left axle is 18.75" as it is supposed to be and the CV joints are fine. I hate being confused. I will remove and investigate the other side to be thorough. _________________ Dr Evil, MD (Mike)
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EvilWerks Samba Member

Joined: August 16, 2007 Posts: 161 Location: Palmyra, PA
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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What are you referring to?
Tonight, the weather caused me to take a break. Thunderstorms are no fun to work under your bus in. I will try to get one or both of the axles off tonight if I start to feel like getting dirty again (worked on Suby all day). I need to measure them to answer some questions. Maybe I put one of the CVs together wrong on each? I had to assemble one on each as they came apart during shipping  _________________ Dr Evil, MD (Mike)
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Hoody Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2007 Posts: 1948
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:21 am Post subject: |
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| Reinventing the wheel will be a very long drawn out process indeed.Good luck. |
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EvilWerks Samba Member

Joined: August 16, 2007 Posts: 161 Location: Palmyra, PA
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting...As I was removing the axles from the adapters, the plastic plugs that hold the grease in were either gone or being eaten through That means that the axles are pushing too far inward. AHHHH! Now what. I wonder if I got the wrong axles way back. I just shipped my stock tranny today, I wish I would have measured the distance between the flange surfaces so I could compare to the PG setup. Time to do some research. _________________ Dr Evil, MD (Mike)
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EvilWerks Samba Member

Joined: August 16, 2007 Posts: 161 Location: Palmyra, PA
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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I have been busy with using, repairing, and using it
I will have to spend some considerable time uploading pics in the near future when I get some time. Here is some update for you, though.
I spent a lot of time learning the ins and outs of the 4bbl holley carb on the engine. I have it finally dialed in pretty well. The bus sounds mean and kicks serious ass Drives like a dream. I can cruise at 80mph all day, up hill. However, I believe I will be installing an external oil cooler (maybe tranz cooler as well) this week as my oil temps spike pretty high under load (240F which is considered the high end of normal). Normally, it is at about 180-220. CHT is awesome! I have never seen over 350 F and it was in the low 90s ambient and I was going up hill.
The most recent events are kind of a bummer. My tranny oil pan has been leaking so I removed it to change the seal. I found a lot of metallic dust in the pan and some pieces of unknown black, brittle stuff. I rebuilt the auto tranz and nothing in it matches what I found in the pan. Also, I do not see where the metal could be coming from. I am pretty sure it is the torque converter, but I am hesitant to trust the tranny now. I also burned the fluid pretty well on my hour long, fast, freeway trial. I am working on this. I have little time before I move and need the bus, I may have to toss some credit at it
The latest, I installed speakers in the doors into some new Werksburg panels, and replaced the turn signal and washer switches tonight. It was nice doing nonessential work.
I need to raise the front as the bus is stink bugging pretty badly. My to do list is comprised of:
Fix oil leaks
Fix tranz
Oil cooler
Install larger front sway bar
Fix horn
Speedo (odo not working)
Ashtray mount (for cup holder)
Front dome light
Kick panels
Engine bay covers ( werksburg set)
Insulation – everywhere
Rear seat belt bolt hole
Remove and replace under coating in front wheel wells
Clean and tint remaining windows
Install tow bar
That is about it for now. _________________ Dr Evil, MD (Mike)
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Soviet1942 Samba Member

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Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Any updates on this? _________________ 1970 Adventurewagen Hightop "Penelope"
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artward Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2010 Posts: 1 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 2:41 pm Post subject: transvair |
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Mike
Just found your thread and photos, beautiful bus!
Several years ago, I put a Corvair engine into a '67 splittie using the transvair kit and the 4 spd manual transmission. It ran beautifully, but there were a few issues still to iron out when I had to abandon the project for grad school. The poor thing is still waiting in my garage for me to come out and work on it again.
Seeing your post made me want to go pay it a visit....
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