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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Diesel Split Reply with quote

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Sorry, I don't see the point at all. The charm of the beetle would be totally spoilt with an oil burner.


maybe you can't see the point for the exhaust, however, i would suggest that a 60+ year old diesel split is just about as interesting as it gets... then again, i used to be a trucker, and diesel is where it is at...


I maybe wasn't clear, the prototype made by Porsche of course is very interesting, I meant that a replica was just a waste of a good split. Diesel is fine in a Peterbilt.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Diesel Split Reply with quote

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Sorry, I don't see the point at all. The charm of the beetle would be totally spoilt with an oil burner.


maybe you can't see the point for the exhaust, however, i would suggest that a 60+ year old diesel split is just about as interesting as it gets... then again, i used to be a trucker, and diesel is where it is at...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:48 am    Post subject: Re: Diesel Split Reply with quote

I think it's brilliant. Just needs a turbo to make some speed and a little insulation to quiet that racket down. And the correct tail lights. Sheesh!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:48 am    Post subject: Re: Diesel Split Reply with quote

Sorry, I don't see the point at all. The charm of the beetle would be totally spoilt with an oil burner.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i like it Smile


Looks like the diesel emission problem goes back a long way ...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. At 375lbs (dry?) that's about twice the weight of a stock engine Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:50 pm    Post subject: Kohler diesel Reply with quote

I have found the information on the Kohler KD625-3. Twin cylinder, 1870cc, 374 pounds, 36.9 hp, and 84.8 pounds torque. Air cooled. I did find more technical on the Kohler site. It looks like there are a lot of adapters. I did not look for any price information. This may be a alternative.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There was on the samba a long time ago a beetle with a Lombardini 20-something HP . Aircooled. And it looked like a clean install.
I cannot find the thread on thesamba but here is it on another forum:

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thread-7.html

it gets great gas mileage.

search is your friend Wink http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=333920&highlight=lombardini
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was on the samba a long time ago a beetle with a Lombardini 20-something HP . Aircooled. And it looked like a clean install.
I cannot find the thread on thesamba but here is it on another forum:

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thread-7.html

it gets great gas mileage.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:34 am    Post subject: diesel VW Reply with quote

There was mention in Hot VWs letter section some months ago of a currently manufactured and available Kohler small 35? hp diesel. I looked on the Kohler site. There were several application adapters and the weight seemed within reason. This may be a feasible installation.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a diesel beetle..... weird! Wink
the 25hp beetle in stock zwitter configuration was already not a speed record breaker Mad ... imagine a diesel from back then (did they make flintstone holes in the floor to help the acceleration/topspeed? Laughing ).
Plus a diesel engine is more expensive to produce (must resist much higher temperatures), so I see why the plan didn't make it past the prototype stage. Very interesting though, that VW tried anyway.
And obviously they didn't have a regulatory smog emission test back then, cause that tailpipe looks like a smokescreen feature from a James Bond car to me! Wink
Haha i want one to smoke out the neighbors Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Excuse my ignorance, but what is that perforated metal can on the radio blockoff plate, with the glowing element inside? I've seen that before on old truck dashboards too.....is it an extra element that shows how the glowplugs are heating up, before start-up?


yep, old benz diesels had a little element like that, and a starter button to pull (not push)
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excuse my ignorance, but what is that perforated metal can on the radio blockoff plate, with the glowing element inside? I've seen that before on old truck dashboards too.....is it an extra element that shows how the glowplugs are heating up, before start-up?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that keeping the heads sealed to the cyls would be the major hurtle. Perhaps a giant "C" clamp, with a tightening schedule could help. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I imagine weight would have been the primary objection. A diesel engine is a heavy lump.

A lot of engineering and use of light-weight material was required to get the rear-to-front weight break below the 60/40 ratio deemed necessary for a (relatively) safe handling rear-engined car. Once that 60 percent rear weight bias was surpassed the cars would become dangerously tail happy. (Chevrolet learned that lesson the hard way.)


the article indicated brutal noise as the main concern, and a 60 second 0-62 mp/h acceleration.

The engine is essentially a 1300cc, 3piece case, porsche engine. Weight should be fairly similar. The fuel pump however might be quite heavy.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I imagine weight would have been the primary objection. A diesel engine is a heavy lump.

A lot of engineering and use of light-weight material was required to get the rear-to-front weight break below the 60/40 ratio deemed necessary for a (relatively) safe handling rear-engined car. Once that 60 percent rear weight bias was surpassed the cars would become dangerously tail happy. (Chevrolet learned that lesson the hard way.)
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i like it Smile
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then click on "Originalbild (--x--px, xxxx kB)"
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm.. Wondering how much work would be involved to make one...? Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The article is from a 1991 VW motoring.Hope you can read the scan and that your eyes dont hurt too much Wink
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