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itsjustdj Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2025 Posts: 2 Location: Wheaton, IL
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2025 12:00 pm Post subject: Re: Headlight Lens Seals |
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Thanks. I put the seal on the other side and it went on fine, so I think I found my issue. It seems like the flanges around the bucket are just a hair too shallow in a few areas, so the seal doesn't stay put. I'm going to try and adjust them a bit and hope I don't need to do any welding. |
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OldSchoolVW's  Samba Member

Joined: July 03, 2020 Posts: 1492 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2025 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: Headlight Lens Seals |
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Funny you you ask about this today. I just took both of my headlight assemblies off today so I could run new ground wires. They went right back on with a little wiggling. The rubber seal came off while I was working on the wiring, but I put it back on and it stayed in place while I reinstalled the headlights.
Are you saying that the rubber seal seems too small to fit around the headlight bucket opening? If so, you could try heating it in the sun and applying a little stretch to it. As I mentioned above, it can be helpful to pull the raised lip on the top of the opening outward a little to accommodate the thicker new seal. This will make it easier to work the chrome bezel behind the lip and get it to seat downward. _________________ Tom
"Following distance is proportional to IQ."
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"If you don't do it this year, you'll be one year older when you do." Warren Miller
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itsjustdj Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2025 Posts: 2 Location: Wheaton, IL
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2025 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: Headlight Lens Seals |
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I'm having a helluva time fitting the new outer seal onto the fender. With the flat side against the fender and the edges tucked into the grooves it seems to go okay until I'm halfway around and then the other side just comes right off. I even tried it with an extra set of hands, but we just couldn't get it to stay on there.
Is it possible it's just a poorly made seal? All the tips I read make it seem like it should go on easily and stay put. |
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OldSchoolVW's  Samba Member

Joined: July 03, 2020 Posts: 1492 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: Headlight Lens Seals |
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malachai wrote: |
Yep, that’s what I meant, I will try bending the lip a little bit but I’m a few thousand miles away from the beetle for a couple of weeks so it will be a while. So there’s not meant to be any glue holding it in place, just elasticness? |
I didn't use any type of adhesive. Just set the seal behind the hooked lip at the top of the headlight opening, then work the bezel down the hooked lip and against the seal. It's meant to seal out moisture, so it will be a snug fit. Be sure to use the spacer on the bottom mounting screw so you don't bend the bezel tab when you tighten it down.
https://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=111941195 _________________ Tom
"Following distance is proportional to IQ."
"It's okay to think."
"If you don't do it this year, you'll be one year older when you do." Warren Miller
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malachai Samba Member

Joined: August 02, 2004 Posts: 650 Location: Großbritannien
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Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:53 am Post subject: Re: Headlight Lens Seals |
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Yep, that’s what I meant, I will try bending the lip a little bit but I’m a few thousand miles away from the beetle for a couple of weeks so it will be a while. So there’s not meant to be any glue holding it in place, just elasticness? _________________ http://www.facebook.com/groups/175509642524184/ |
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OldSchoolVW's  Samba Member

Joined: July 03, 2020 Posts: 1492 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 12:00 pm Post subject: Re: Headlight Lens Seals |
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malachai wrote: |
Does anyone have any tips on fitting the light housing to fender seal? I’m not sure what make mine is but it just pings off and even with help I can’t get it to stay there, should it be glued? Also where did those hella seals come from that go round the lens? I might have to get some of those for when mine disintegrate |
By "light housing" are you referring to the chrome bezel that holds the lens? There is a seal that goes between that and the fender. With the seal in place on the fender, it may be necessary to bend that hooked lip at the top of the opening outward so the bezel can catch it and slide down against the seal.
If I am misinterpreting your question/situation, perhaps you can post a photo to clarify. _________________ Tom
"Following distance is proportional to IQ."
"It's okay to think."
"If you don't do it this year, you'll be one year older when you do." Warren Miller
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'69 Beetle Sunroof
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malachai Samba Member

Joined: August 02, 2004 Posts: 650 Location: Großbritannien
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Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 9:54 am Post subject: Re: Headlight Lens Seals |
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Does anyone have any tips on fitting the light housing to fender seal? I’m not sure what make mine is but it just pings off and even with help I can’t get it to stay there, should it be glued? Also where did those hella seals come from that go round the lens? I might have to get some of those for when mine disintegrate _________________ http://www.facebook.com/groups/175509642524184/ |
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Jamesp76 Samba Member
Joined: September 15, 2018 Posts: 3 Location: Evansville Indiana
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 3:20 pm Post subject: Re: Headlight Lens Seals |
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I can't thank you enough for having this on the web site. I washed my seal with a little dish soap and it slipped right on. Thank you!
The image cleared it all up! |
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keegs Samba Member
Joined: December 20, 2020 Posts: 98 Location: ME
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:22 am Post subject: Re: Headlight Lens Seals |
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Thanks for that image... makes it pretty clear how to attach the seal.
I've been using a 3M rubber seal conditioner product to freshen up the running board mats, the seals around the engine tins...etc. I'll try applying some of the conditioner to the headlight seal as well. Maybe it'll help it some. |
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Frederik Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2007 Posts: 604 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:43 am Post subject: Re: Headlight Lens Seals |
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Correct installation of the lens seal. The ridge goes to the back of the lens towards the bucket to seal better. New Hella seals has the ridge, but I think many of the aftermarket don't have it. Last aftermarket "no name" seals I bought dried out and cracked in less than 1/2 a year so I now stay away from them.
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keegs Samba Member
Joined: December 20, 2020 Posts: 98 Location: ME
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:14 am Post subject: Re: Headlight Lens Seals |
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Gary Haberman Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2013 Posts: 72 Location: Farmingdale, NY
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Tried putting in the headlight to fender seal and could not figure it out-then I found this thread which advised placing the smooth side toward the fender-however, by playing with the gasket for 20 minutes, I ended up stretching it so much it no longer fit-luckily I had purchased 2 (one for the other headlight) and put it in right the first time and it fit. Had to add a headlight seal to my WW list. |
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'69Custom Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2008 Posts: 2497 Location: Ventura, California
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:34 am Post subject: |
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BruceJ wrote: |
'69Custom wrote: |
5. Tweak your aftermarket fender flange so the seal fits.
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Hadn't thought about the tweakage option. Think I'll give it a try. You mean like slight tweakage with, say, a pair of pliers to the lip of the bucket on the fender? Go round and round gradually until it just fits? Cover jaws of pliers with a thick cloth to minimize paint damage? (Note to self: next time, check headlight fit before paint.) |
Exactly!
I just did away with aftermarket front fenders where the bucket lip was terribly crimped. At first, even the headlight alone wouldn't seat properly. And because the entire lip area was sharp metal, I never ran the seals because of tearing. I've experienced all the problems you are and those I ran down above. _________________ -Tim
1969 Frankenbug
1965 Ford Mustang
:2gunfire: F-U-M-P!
~"I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken." ~The Boss
Please excuse any typos as my iPhone doesn't speak English very well.
tham64 wrote: |
Why tune a big round again and again????? For me.... 1 hour will solve the case |
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BruceJ Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:17 am Post subject: |
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'69Custom wrote: |
5. Tweak your aftermarket fender flange so the seal fits.
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Hadn't thought about the tweakage option. Think I'll give it a try. You mean like slight tweakage with, say, a pair of pliers to the lip of the bucket on the fender? Go round and round gradually until it just fits? Cover jaws of pliers with a thick cloth to minimize paint damage? (Note to self: next time, check headlight fit before paint.) |
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'69Custom Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2008 Posts: 2497 Location: Ventura, California
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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5. Tweak your aftermarket fender flange so the seal fits.
Running without a proper seal will allow for all kinds of yuckiness to invade your bucket: dust, moisture, bugs, illegal aliens... I'd also trim the seal before going without if it came down to that. You do already have it. _________________ -Tim
1969 Frankenbug
1965 Ford Mustang
:2gunfire: F-U-M-P!
~"I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken." ~The Boss
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tham64 wrote: |
Why tune a big round again and again????? For me.... 1 hour will solve the case |
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BruceJ Samba Member
Joined: June 16, 2009 Posts: 260 Location: Portland, ME
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:04 am Post subject: |
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I rebuilt the headlight buckets for my '65 Beetle today. The seals that go around the lenses were a piece of cake. But the assembly to fender seals are killing me! What I've got:
1. Aftermarket fenders (I know, I know. But I do not live in California. Had to settle for what I could get).
2. Wolfsburg West seals.
3. OG assembly.
Unit fits nice, tight, and snug to fender, without the seal. But with the seal, it simply! WILL! NOT! GO!
Options, as I see them:
1. Cut seal to make it fit.
2. Run without seal.
3. Never drive in the rain.
4. Move to California.
Most practically, I'm thinking about #2. Again, the lens is sealed against the assembly properly, we're just talking about the assembly to fender seal. And I have the little rubber drain tubes in place.
Also, I found that if I tuck the seals into the assembly itself before attaching the assembly to the car, it fits nicely. But I know this isn't the right way of doing things, so this is why I'm asking -- help? |
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'69Custom Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2008 Posts: 2497 Location: Ventura, California
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: Headlights |
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philheese wrote: |
The seals weren't a big problem, but those damn springs. The first light was a challenge, but I got it. The second, I couldn't get four to stay in the bezel, but three would stay. Hopefully three will hold it. :. Any feedback on that? |
Yeah. Temporarily. _________________ -Tim
1969 Frankenbug
1965 Ford Mustang
:2gunfire: F-U-M-P!
~"I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken." ~The Boss
Please excuse any typos as my iPhone doesn't speak English very well.
tham64 wrote: |
Why tune a big round again and again????? For me.... 1 hour will solve the case |
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philheese Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2005 Posts: 60 Location: Homestead, Fl.
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:28 pm Post subject: Headlights |
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The seals weren't a big problem, but those damn springs. The first light was a challenge, but I got it. The second, I couldn't get four to stay in the bezel, but three would stay. Hopefully three will hold it. :. Any feedback on that? |
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teufelwagen Samba Member
Joined: May 25, 2010 Posts: 4 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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'69Custom wrote: |
teufelwagen wrote: |
FWIW...
There is also a special rubber drain plug valve whatchamacallit thingumbob that is supposed
to go in the hole in the bottom of the bucket, to let water drain out without letting dirt and
water come back up off the road into the headlight bucket. Those are usually missing too...
I got some from West Coast Metric |
Those have always seemed incredibly worthless to me. Once installed, they create a raised lip inside the bucket around the drain hole, basically a dam. It's a bit difficult for water to escape through there then should any get inside. |
Well, they're *supposedly* designed not to do that... there's a slot in them
at the bottom inside the bucket that's supposed to keep the drain from just being
a plug.
But whether they *work* or not, is another question... Ask Adolf, it was HIS
idea. Those headlights with all their spring clips, seals, spacers, plugs, screws,
and left tertiary vernier adjustment calibration doomaflodgets, look to me to
be exactly where Adolf ran into a bottle of Schnapps... I mean, what a kludged
up mess, just to put headlights on a car. I've heard that's why the Germans
lost the war - Too many parts in their war machines... |
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'69Custom Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2008 Posts: 2497 Location: Ventura, California
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:38 am Post subject: |
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teufelwagen wrote: |
FWIW...
There is also a special rubber drain plug valve whatchamacallit thingumbob that is supposed
to go in the hole in the bottom of the bucket, to let water drain out without letting dirt and
water come back up off the road into the headlight bucket. Those are usually missing too...
I got some from West Coast Metric |
Those have always seemed incredibly worthless to me. Once installed, they create a raised lip inside the bucket around the drain hole, basically a dam. It's a bit difficult for water to escape through there then should any get inside. _________________ -Tim
1969 Frankenbug
1965 Ford Mustang
:2gunfire: F-U-M-P!
~"I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken." ~The Boss
Please excuse any typos as my iPhone doesn't speak English very well.
tham64 wrote: |
Why tune a big round again and again????? For me.... 1 hour will solve the case |
www.endlesscustomz.com |
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