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Captain Pike
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I tried the resistor from the rear blower.
I made the smoke come out of the wire.
So that's out.
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kayakwesty
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it was $12.95 from Van-Cafe...which I try to spread the love to...and I get cookies : )
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my 2 cents...I'm digging his concept of co-conspirators...to help keep our VW's alive
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allsierra123
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Where did you order the switch and how much was it?
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kayakwesty
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Kaiser Soze I owe you big time! It was the switch...just ordered 2 one for backup or in case it goes NLA
Okay this weekend if I can sneak off I'm going to a pull-a-part and grab a resistor pack from a rabbit and a MKII and try to reverse engineer us a resistor pack.
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Vanagon Nut
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I searched through some old notes on blower fan resistors.
Maybe something like this is an option?
http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/motor/ck1400.htm
If this is suitable, maybe "kill two birds" so to speak as this would replace switch and resistor?
Neil.
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Vanagon Nut
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| kayakwesty wrote: |
| I crossed referenced the blower motor its the same...couldn't find anything on resistor pack |
Pic borrowed from this Vortex page.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4311717
Seems it's from a Mk1. Shows resistor, but not PN. Maybe more info over there?
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kayakwesty
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I crossed referenced the blower motor its the same...couldn't find anything on resistor pack
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kayakwesty
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| (i.e. how hard is it to pull this part) so had a quick look through my Rabbit etc. '75-'92 Haynes. '85+ likely different, b |
I did some internet digging and they look to be the same but I couldn't prove it so I didn't post...but they sure do look the same ...are they NLA too?
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Vanagon Nut
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exactly I thinking MKII there are alot at my pull-a-part. I can mount the pack in a remote box too, so the next time its easier to get to
It's starting to pi$$ me off on all the NLA parts hitting us...my van has plenty of life in left |
I was curious if it might be worth ones time to buy new, (i.e. how hard is it to pull this part) so had a quick look through my Rabbit etc. '75-'92 Haynes. '85+ likely different, but in looking, it seems the earlier MY resistor shown in the image below might be the same, or very similar to the Vanagon.
True?
That blower motor sure looks close to the Vanagon one.
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kayakwesty
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exactly I thinking MKII there are alot at my pull-a-part. I can mount the pack in a remote box too, so the next time its easier to get to
It's starting to pi$$ me off on all the NLA parts hitting us...my van has plenty of life left in it
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Vanagon Nut
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there was a thread recently about resistor pack substitutes. Smile
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anybody got a link I found nothing in the search ( i think its broke) |
This is the one I was referring to:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=386613&highlight=resistor
Doesn't have as much, if any, relevant info as I thought. My bad.
If you can't find used, (or follow Marks suggestion) maybe one from a Jetta? Seems a Mk2 might do. (pic below)
It shows a similar looking product though you would need to find a way to connect it.
I would imagine the Jetta blower is similar electrically (draw). If it were me, I'd prefer that "pack" type over a coil type. (pic below. late 90's Mazda) Either one gets hot, but depending on where/how it's mounted, the coils look to be a fire hazard to me. But, they seem cheaper. i.e. one for a Jeep is less than $20 and has cage to protect coils.
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You can use the resistor out of the rear A/C. It uses the same fan motor, x2, plus 2 resistors, one per motor. These are 3 speed resistors not 2 speed like the heater fan resistor, so only use 2 or go ahead and let high speed be a little slower and use all 3. You can use the A/C fan motor as well, slight connection difference.
heater fan- low, med done by resistor, high speed bypasses resistor, 3 speeds total
A/C fan- low, med, med hi, by resistor, high speed bypasses resistor, 4 speeds total
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there was a thread recently about resistor pack substitutes. Smile
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kayakwesty
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there was a thread recently about resistor pack substitutes. Smile
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anybody got a link I found nothing in the search ( i think its broke)
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Captain Pike
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I will make my own... |
That's what I have been doing all day, playing with resistors.
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| I'd think of greasing up the connections at the resistor might be a good idea to keep them from corroding out in the open as they are -- |
Yup. Thanks. I'll break out the dielectric stuff.
KW
there was a thread recently about resistor pack substitutes. 
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dealer wants $115 for the resistor pack
I think not...
I will make my own...
and thank you for posting that!
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Captain Pike
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Say hello to my little friend
Here is a quick way to test the fan/resistor pack. These photos show the test with the fan out but you can do this with the fan/dash installed. All you need to do is unplug the connector from the switch.
To test the windings for the fan.
Get an OHM meter connect one wire to a ground source and probe the Yellow wire
You want to see some ### here. This proves the fan isn't shorted.
Next test the low speed resistor winding. This time connect one line to the Yellow wire__the other to the White wire.
Again you want to see ###. No ## = fried resistor.
Medium speed: Yellow and yellow/black.
See how the resistance decreases as the speed increases.
Class dismissed 
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I'd think of greasing up the connections at the resistor might be a good idea to keep them from corroding out in the open as they are --
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