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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:52 pm    Post subject: Re: 34 PICT 3 turbocharging ! Reply with quote

HansMartin wrote:
thank you for replying.
it is good to get feedback like yours, and it might be telling of why this particular thread went dead silent. perhaps FI came to France as well =? Smile


so yes, fuel injection is the way to go. I had collected all the parts but a skinny wallet forced me to sell it all off, so now i am back to square one .

What is the baseline price on a fuel injection setup for turbo =? I guess one could run a single injector and throttlebody ? anyways, i guess that is something to discuss in another thread.


I spent 2 years gathering parts....some new some used.

I think the end cost was about $1350.00 For the MS-1 Fuel Injection system and I allocated $250.00 of that for misc clamps, bolts, nuts and other hardware.

Engine was $1300.00 for 1679cc's.
Turbo was about $400.00 building it myself.
WI was homemade at $200.00.
All this was done in 2013.

It's been upgraded many times and now puts out 187 whp with the same engine.
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I'm so ignorant of efi I don't even know the difference between batch, sequential blah blah blah ..


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:55 pm    Post subject: Re: 34 PICT 3 turbocharging ! Reply with quote

thank you for replying.
it is good to get feedback like yours, and it might be telling of why this particular thread went dead silent. perhaps FI came to France as well =? Smile


so yes, fuel injection is the way to go. I had collected all the parts but a skinny wallet forced me to sell it all off, so now i am back to square one .

What is the baseline price on a fuel injection setup for turbo =? I guess one could run a single injector and throttlebody ? anyways, i guess that is something to discuss in another thread.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:49 pm    Post subject: Re: 34 PICT 3 turbocharging ! Reply with quote

HansMartin wrote:
for the heck of it i will post here again. it is sort of nostalgic coming here. I'm still a fan of doing stuff on the cheap. nowadays so many in the vw community is spending a ton of money to make their car go fast, which is nice if u got money to burn .


I tried the auxiliary vent on a 34 Pict-3 carb but never had any success getting it to run on my turbo setup.

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I can't remember exactly but it didn't run worth a crap. I had better success with extending the fuel bowl vent and leaving everything else just about stock except for oringing the throttle shsft.

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About the time I had it figured out I had all the parts collected for Fuel Injection and never looked back.
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I'm so ignorant of efi I don't even know the difference between batch, sequential blah blah blah ..


cbeck wrote:
His user name in a previous life was dick head.


My Megasquirt Fuel Injection Turbo Buggy Build
Water/Alcohol Injection
Audi TT intercooler
Upgraded to MS3Pro-Evo
EcuMaster PMU16
ECUMaster ADU5 Digital Dash


http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=127936
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:02 pm    Post subject: Re: 34 PICT 3 turbocharging ! Reply with quote

I'm building a stock single port right now, and considering going this route and then selling it. Is there a market for 140HP turbo engine for 3K or so?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:59 am    Post subject: Re: 34 PICT 3 turbocharging ! Reply with quote

for the heck of it i will post here again. it is sort of nostalgic coming here. I'm still a fan of doing stuff on the cheap. nowadays so many in the vw community is spending a ton of money to make their car go fast, which is nice if u got money to burn .
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smile Talk is just that.....talk. A person has to Walk the Talk in order to be believed. No follow up means a FAILURE happened.

EDIT: A Turbo with a single throat carb is NOT new.

Back in the late 1970's had a 1600cc with a single throat Carb to a Turbo. Believe it was a Zenith...still have it in my back room in a box with the exhaust etc.....old technology as I've a Weber DCOE 40 to a Rajay B25 1776cc today and this is somewhat old technology also....go figure.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yet again i return - i must be an optimist Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

why did this thread end so abruptly ? i've returned so many times to this just to be disappointed. :/

It is great work and i'd love to hear more about it.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bill271 wrote:
Bill271 wrote:
Are these hp numbers on an eng dyno or chassis?


anybody here that? lol


Chassis dyno.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Respect dude! One sweet stealth ride!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bill271 wrote:
Are these hp numbers on an eng dyno or chassis?


anybody here that? lol
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Irvin, yes, I'm working on it.
Fast', I'm working on it! Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how about more pics.... like all you got,
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really nice.
Do you plan to release some drawings or tutorial ?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turbo is not behind the engine. It's all tucked in between the crank pulley and the rear body panel.
Car sounds like original.
Dump valve is progressive to avoid the typical "tchii" at deceleration. So when you pass by five-0, there's nothing tale telling. Plus it allows engine to run smoother and more linearly. This makes the car very drivable on ice and snow.

You could even knee down to look under the car, as we're making fake original looking exhaust. We do that even though the turbo is already hidden underneath by the muffler.
On the other hand, I've never seen any officer crawling under a car to check anything.

You should keep in mind that if there's no regular technical check up test in the US, over here in Europe, we have to have the car checked by the automotive dept every two years. Bring a beetle that does not look original to this test and you're sure to fail.

We also realize that the difficulty of making it all invisible is not of everyone's capability, which was a good challenge. Nothing on the car body has been cut. It's all tucked in, and everything is reachable and practical. It's not like those kits you see for sand rails or dune buggies where you almost need to undo everything to change the fan belt.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spyvsspy wrote:
And say "Officer, there's NO Way I was going that fast!


Ok that's a good reason Very Happy
"What ? That whistle when I accelerate ? Well you know stock exhausts on 1600 engines have a whistle noise" Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the no vacuum to the dist says something's up. either doing something sweet, or dumb.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might not work with stateside cops but with Puerto Rican police, hahahahah!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And say "Officer, there's NO Way I was going that fast!


Doesn't work, trust me. I have 3 speeding tickets to prove it. Evil or Very Mad

He just said 'I know it's a '58, but speeding is speeding'. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That stealth 2110cc turbo engine is the baddest engine I've ever seen in my life. Why would you want a stock looking turbo? So you can hustle unsuspecting victims in a street race!! (And say "Officer, there's NO Way I was going that fast!)
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