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BartD Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:50 am Post subject: |
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Rich's 50 Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2004 Posts: 10794 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: bad camberg 2015 |
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| turbolaz wrote: |
| hello can anyone tell me what month does bad camberg take place or do they have the date yet selected for the 2015 show, thanks in advance. |
Typically has always been Mid to late June. I too am interested in confirmation of the 2015 show as I plan on going and coupling it with a European tour that will take some planning..... |
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turbolaz Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2005 Posts: 88
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Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:13 pm Post subject: bad camberg 2015 |
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Me too thats why i'm trying to find out, my wife wants a Mediterranean cruise and ill take advantage and do the show before or after,keep in touch. I'm from Miami Florida. _________________ shipping extra,paypal ok at 4% added to parts.
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johnshenry Samba Member

Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9416 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 6:59 pm Post subject: Re: bad camberg 2015 |
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| turbolaz wrote: |
| hello can anyone tell me what month does bad camberg take place or do they have the date yet selected for the 2015 show, thanks in advance. |
Typically has always been Mid to late June. I too am interested in confirmation of the 2015 show as I plan on going and coupling it with a European tour that will take some planning..... _________________ John Henry
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turbolaz Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2005 Posts: 88
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Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 6:42 pm Post subject: bad camberg 2015 |
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hello can anyone tell me what month does bad camberg take place or do they have the date yet selected for the 2015 show, thanks in advance. _________________ shipping extra,paypal ok at 4% added to parts.
parts are sold as is. |
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johnshenry Samba Member

Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9416 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:57 am Post subject: |
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| If you have 021E and 021F sems in the box, then it is no later than '59. Those parts align well with the 1960 date on the bottom of the printed page. |
John,
the prices beside the part numbers in the lid are a little bit lower than on
the printed list. So the box must be from 1959 and in 1960 they put a
new list in the box because of higher spare parts prices.
Thanks for your help!
Claus |
That makes sense...... _________________ John Henry
'57 Deluxe
'56 Single Cab |
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karmann1952 Samba Member

Joined: June 20, 2004 Posts: 186 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:40 am Post subject: |
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| johnshenry wrote: |
| If you have 021E and 021F sems in the box, then it is no later than '59. Those parts align well with the 1960 date on the bottom of the printed page. |
John,
the prices beside the part numbers in the lid are a little bit lower than on
the printed list. So the box must be from 1959 and in 1960 they put a
new list in the box because of higher spare parts prices.
Thanks for your help!
Claus _________________ _________________
- 1966 T1 Westie SO-44 Dormobile
- 1963 Export 1200 Judson
- 1953 Export Zwitter sunroof
- 1952 Barndoor Panel Van
- 1952 Karmann Kabriolett
- 1950 Hebmuller 14-00684
- 1950 Hebmuller 14-00523
visit my homepage:
www.karmann1952.com
www.hebmuller-registry.com
www.kabriolett-registry.com |
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johnshenry Samba Member

Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9416 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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If you have 021E and 021F sems in the box, then it is no later than '59. Those parts align well with the 1960 date on the bottom of the printed page. _________________ John Henry
'57 Deluxe
'56 Single Cab |
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karmann1952 Samba Member

Joined: June 20, 2004 Posts: 186 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:34 am Post subject: |
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| Ok thanks. I'd be interested to know the part numbers on the sems in the box, and the date codes on them as well. |
Hi John,
I´ve checked the box. The numbers on the lid are the same like on the list. So the box is younger than 1953/54. What do you think, when came the newer numbers? A guy from switzerland told me that Amag produced the box for the dealers from 53 till 1960. They put a lot of split stuff in those boxes because only older VW´s had maybe a problem
Cheers
Claus _________________ _________________
- 1966 T1 Westie SO-44 Dormobile
- 1963 Export 1200 Judson
- 1953 Export Zwitter sunroof
- 1952 Barndoor Panel Van
- 1952 Karmann Kabriolett
- 1950 Hebmuller 14-00684
- 1950 Hebmuller 14-00523
visit my homepage:
www.karmann1952.com
www.hebmuller-registry.com
www.kabriolett-registry.com |
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EverettB  Administrator

Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 71886 Location: Phoenix 602
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VWKDF Samba Member

Joined: March 17, 2011 Posts: 376 Location: NJ
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Hi Tim,
here´s a scan of the pricelist which was in the 1953/54 swiss-sos-box.
Now everybody can collect the parts to get also a sos-box
Cheers
Claus
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Thanks Claus,
I love that there are prices too!!
My wife was right, I have definitely been spending too much for my VW parts.
Well, I won't be showing her this.................or how much I've really spent.
Tim |
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johnshenry Samba Member

Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9416 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| karmann1952 wrote: |
| johnshenry wrote: |
| Claus, is there a date on the kit/paperwork somewhere??? |
John, the list is just in the box because of the higher prices. I think they made a new list every year for the VW shops to put it into the box, the numbers have changed sometimes. The first prices and the old part numbers are printed in the lid. I can not scan it. I wil check the numbers. I will check the numbers maybe they are different to the numbers on the newer list... |
Ok thanks. I'd be interested to know the part numbers on the sems in the box, and the date codes on them as well. _________________ John Henry
'57 Deluxe
'56 Single Cab |
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karmann1952 Samba Member

Joined: June 20, 2004 Posts: 186 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:27 am Post subject: |
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Hope you didn't pay "full price" for that kit Claus ....  |
I have paid a lot for it. With the box came my Heb  _________________ _________________
- 1966 T1 Westie SO-44 Dormobile
- 1963 Export 1200 Judson
- 1953 Export Zwitter sunroof
- 1952 Barndoor Panel Van
- 1952 Karmann Kabriolett
- 1950 Hebmuller 14-00684
- 1950 Hebmuller 14-00523
visit my homepage:
www.karmann1952.com
www.hebmuller-registry.com
www.kabriolett-registry.com |
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karmann1952 Samba Member

Joined: June 20, 2004 Posts: 186 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:26 am Post subject: |
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[quote="karmann1952"]
| johnshenry wrote: |
| Claus, is there a date on the kit/paperwork somewhere??? |
There´s no date on the box  _________________ _________________
- 1966 T1 Westie SO-44 Dormobile
- 1963 Export 1200 Judson
- 1953 Export Zwitter sunroof
- 1952 Barndoor Panel Van
- 1952 Karmann Kabriolett
- 1950 Hebmuller 14-00684
- 1950 Hebmuller 14-00523
visit my homepage:
www.karmann1952.com
www.hebmuller-registry.com
www.kabriolett-registry.com |
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karmann1952 Samba Member

Joined: June 20, 2004 Posts: 186 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:23 am Post subject: |
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| johnshenry wrote: |
| Claus, is there a date on the kit/paperwork somewhere??? |
John, the list is just in the box because of the higher prices. I think they made a new list every year for the VW shops to put it into the box, the numbers have changed sometimes. The first prices and the old part numbers are printed in the lid. I can not scan it. I wil check the numbers. I will check the numbers maybe they are different to the numbers on the newer list... _________________ _________________
- 1966 T1 Westie SO-44 Dormobile
- 1963 Export 1200 Judson
- 1953 Export Zwitter sunroof
- 1952 Barndoor Panel Van
- 1952 Karmann Kabriolett
- 1950 Hebmuller 14-00684
- 1950 Hebmuller 14-00523
visit my homepage:
www.karmann1952.com
www.hebmuller-registry.com
www.kabriolett-registry.com |
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johnshenry Samba Member

Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9416 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:20 am Post subject: |
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What I find interesting is who needs an EMERGENCY semaphore or even less two !?  |
I think that might have been a service kit that was sold/marketed to independent service garage type places. Sort of your "basic" parts kit for that "side of the road" shop. Although I'm sure there were some rich mechanics who owned VWs who would have one as well... _________________ John Henry
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'56 Single Cab |
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johnshenry Samba Member

Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9416 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:17 am Post subject: |
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Oh duh, there the date 10.3.60 at the bottom of the paper. that jives with the sem part numbers... _________________ John Henry
'57 Deluxe
'56 Single Cab |
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RichOakley Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2004 Posts: 1123 Location: Midlands, UK
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:14 am Post subject: |
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I find it interesting that there are two sems, both SHO, one a 111 953 021E and an 021F. Those two are basically identical I think (Matt??). Also, that they had progressed all the way to the 021F by '53/54? The 3x3 numbering system wasn't even used until mid-late '53.
I have to look at my date coded SHO sems, I thought I saw an 021C dated '56 sometime.
Claus, is there a date on the kit/paperwork somewhere??? |
Those must have been put in the box sometime later as I think E's and F's were '57-'60 era. They are also yellow lens rather than orange so definitely later than '53/'54. |
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johnshenry Samba Member

Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9416 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:14 am Post subject: |
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Ok, according to Matt's page at:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/semaphores.php
The 021E was an SHO used '59-'61
The 021F was an SWF used '59-'61
Makes sense the kit would have one each of an SHO and SWF, so in a repair, they could match what was on the other side.
But in the kit pics shown, both are SHOs. You can tell by the three large rivet holes in the body under then terminal board.
Hope you didn't pay "full price" for that kit Claus ....  _________________ John Henry
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Ninamashr Samba Member

Joined: October 12, 2005 Posts: 1400 Location: City of Round Rock in the Great State of Texas
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:11 am Post subject: |
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What I find interesting is who needs an EMERGENCY semaphore or even less two !?  _________________ 1957 Karmann Kabriolet "Franky"
1957 Allstate trailer |
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