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raul arrese
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Dave
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Okay, I have the steering wheel in my grubby fat hands, and I got the part number off of it... it is:
#111415651A
It has the VW logo stamped, or embossed inside the hub, as well.
So what year/application is this thing?
Coarse splines,
turn signal canceling ring
rounded circle, with thumb grips.
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RichOakley
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| Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:25 am Post subject: |
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| The one in your Oval is August '55 or later. Value with hornpush, around £100-£150 in nice condition. |
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Hebster52
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| Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Jake Shuttleworth wrote: |
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The one to the left is my -64 Standard wheel and the one to the right is a Barndoor wheel, now sold.
The -64 standard wheel have 48 teeth as stated earlier and fits perfectly on a split steeringcolumn (24 teeth) when the turnsignal canceling ring is removed.
http://www.fvwa.sitefactory.fi/data/4938.jpg |
Cheers for that. Mine is def the one on the right.
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If you refere to the 3-spoke wheel in the -53 in your first post that is definitly one like the one to the left. The Barndoor wheels have same hubsize as the Batwing steeringwheels. In other words you can fit a Batwing horn in them.
Dave, your wheel is probably a wheel from a post-56 oval if it have the coarse splining and also the canceling ring.
All I can say about those wheels in the ads in the first post is that both prices are way out of line...  They are both with 48 teeth. In other words they are for late standards. (Post-56)...
I paid 50 Euros for mine a few years ago... 
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Sooty Sooty
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| Hebster52 wrote: |
The one to the left is my -64 Standard wheel and the one to the right is a Barndoor wheel, now sold.
The -64 standard wheel have 48 teeth as stated earlier and fits perfectly on a split steeringcolumn (24 teeth) when the turnsignal canceling ring is removed.
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Cheers for that. Mine is def the one on the right.
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Dave
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Okay, now *I* am confused..
My neighbor has a 3 spoke steering wheel, that had the coarse splines, and has a (IIRC) 311 (or maybe 113?) beginning part number, and it has the cancelling ring underneath.
What is it?
I can get photos, if need be, he wanted me to try and sell it on here anyway...Unfortunately, back in the 70's he let his kids play with it, and they destroyed the outer ring for the horn, but the button itself and the chrome retaining ring, and everything underneath that is okay, though...
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Hebster52
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usariemen
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Sooty Sooty
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| I think the real difference between these 2 wheels is $950. |
Guess so! Ha.
I will take the wheel off and take lots of pics. Many thanks all.
Still a tad confused though! |
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drscope
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:49 am Post subject: |
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I think the real difference between these 2 wheels is $950.
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Thanks for the clarification 
regards,
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Dubbers Toy Box
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| I have never tried to put a fine spline wheel over a coarse spline shaft but I have done the opposite, (coarse spline wheel over a fine spline shaft on my '56 and it does not fit). |
There are no Pre '59 "fine spline" steering shafts. "Fine" spline shafts were introduced on the 1960 model. Do you have a 1960-later shaft on your '56? |
I think I'm confused. Didn't you just say in your next post, 3 minutes later that 49-55 had a 24 tooth hub and that '56 and later had a 48 tooth "fine spline hub"?
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i will clarify
the steering shafts were all coarse spline up through 59
but starting in mid 1956 they changed to the fine spline hub in the steering wheel so there would be more adjustment.
so as someone mentioned earlier, you can put a fine spline wheel on a coarse spline shaft. but not the other way around.
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33woodie
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| I have never tried to put a fine spline wheel over a coarse spline shaft but I have done the opposite, (coarse spline wheel over a fine spline shaft on my '56 and it does not fit). |
There are no Pre '59 "fine spline" steering shafts. "Fine" spline shafts were introduced on the 1960 model. Do you have a 1960-later shaft on your '56? |
I think I'm confused. Didn't you just say in your next post, 3 minutes later that 49-55 had a 24 tooth hub and that '56 and later had a 48 tooth "fine spline hub"?
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56TIMOTEO
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| Look for turn signal canceling ring (or screw holes for it)! |
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bally
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Does he mean it's not for split screen vans rather than split bugs (he goes on to say it's for bugs or Fridolins)?
I sold mine for £150 GBP - it is a later standard model wheel. It has since been professionally restored and last I saw it was for sale for £450 - I don't know if it sold though. $550 for NOS would therefore look like a bargain. $1500 maybe slightly overpriced. Maybe yours would be £300 if in original unrestored condition?
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Both could be installed in a split. Technically. The later fine splines work with the earlier steering shafts. But both are no split parts and your 1953 one isn´t either. A split ones outer ring where you grab it has a kind of "thumb rail" like the batwing ones have. They where not that round.
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Agreed. Look at the photo below, that is a 1949-55 wheel. See how the outside grip has a dished profile. These wheels will have a 24-tooth "coarse" splined hub
1956-later standard wheels have a rounded profile. These wheels will have a 48-tooth "fine" splined hub
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| I have never tried to put a fine spline wheel over a coarse spline shaft but I have done the opposite, (coarse spline wheel over a fine spline shaft on my '56 and it does not fit). |
There are no Pre '59 "fine spline" steering shafts. "Fine" spline shafts were introduced on the 1960 model. Do you have a 1960-later shaft on your '56?
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| Cheers guys, will look tomorrow. Many thanks. |
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usariemen
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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As I said, fine spline ones can be put into early cars.
So this one could be late.
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Jake,
I think usariemen makes a good point. You need to take your 3-spoke off and see if it is coarse or fine splines. I have never tried to put a fine spline wheel over a coarse spline shaft but I have done the opposite, (coarse spline wheel over a fine spline shaft on my '56 and it does not fit).
If yours is coarse spline it appears that it will not fit fine splines shafts and would only work on early cars.
regards,
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