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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't see any way possible that someone could seriously think that putting sound deadening materials/insulation on the engine bay walls would, or could cause the engine to run hotter. Unless you are relying on heat transfer into the passenger compartment part of the engines cooling system. Ok, I'll concede that if you used enough mass to block the normal airflow you'd run into problems.

Cooling air is drawn in through the bay louvers by the engine fan and blown out underneath and behind the vehicle. if your sheet metal is intact. Putting sound deadening material on the bay walls keeps heat and sound from transfering from the engine bay to the passenger compartment, it insulates the passenger compartment, not the engine bay. Having these materials on the bay walls in no way should cause the engine to run hotter.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that is true... I lived in SAC town, for 4 years and that is pretty dry in the summers. But went to the bay area all the time, thats perfect ACVW weather....
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right on man! I'd listen to anyone who kept his or her bus alive in that heat. I'm always amazed at the folks who drive ACVW in AZ.

Its a dry heat... Shocked .....

Taking cooling advice from someone in San Francisco is like taking child counseling advice from Jeffery Dahlmer.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is true, Again that is what I was told, and over heating can come from a great number of different things.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Dude not laughing at you but the folks who said that. I drive in really hot conditions in the summer and as long as the fan is spinning, your engine is tuned properly, and you have no air restrictions your fine.

That is to funny.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

most of the sound proofing materials are a form of installation, which is what is used to keep heat in... I have not tried doing this to my car, because some VW people in AZ have said that the extra installation can cause heat to be trapped in that area and then your fan will suck in that hot air and can cause over heating.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wondering if you could explain a little. Why would sound proofing effect the cooling capabilities of an aircooled engine. Nothing restricts airflow it just deaden's the sound.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You cant really do that in AZ, to hot and with that and the heat in the summer good bye VW....
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've done my engine bay with the aluminum (looking) bubble wrap. I like it and at night when I turn on the light (engine bay light) it helps illuminate the whole engine bay.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zeroman wrote:
nothing....
leave it.. put stuff on the inside.. if you want


agreed
i just cleaned up my firewall, shaved all the tarboard spikes and painted it
looks alot nicer than those cruddy chrome firewalls or tarboard
i've got good quality insulation under my parcel tray carpet and its no louder now than when i had the tarboard in

i dont think stock tarboard has real good sound and heat proofing properties anyway compared to todays insulations like dynamat and similar
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be careful what you use and how well its attached. A guy i know used the firewall kit from WCM. The piece in front of the engine melted down and covered the fan in the shroud. It did its best to burn up a week old motor.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yA... it really depends on the amount of noise you can take and what condition your interior is.

I have (currently) NO sound proofing. But with the top down.. its still not audible.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree. I would do both. Try this in the engine compartment.
http://www.oeveedub.com/vw/bug-tinware/111-898-605.html
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nothing....
leave it.. put stuff on the inside.. if you want
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:48 pm    Post subject: Sound proofing material in engine bay Reply with quote

I've got my engine bay de-rusted and POR'd, trying to decide what to put back in, really trying to avoid the old tarboards.
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