A Pillar Differences

Franz · Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:33 am Post subject:

If you want, I can send you my original pieces so that you have something to compare to?
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Franz · Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:31 am Post subject:

Thats just a dent in the seal channel...It looks like its supposed to be strait.

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Lowdown Dirty Rat · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:29 am Post subject:

They are useful, cheers.
Looks like there shouldnt be an obvious dent where the 7mm lip meets the lower bulge.

Is it a trick of the light or is there a pressing in the door seam (circled).
It also seems that the strengthening flap (also circled) is much more contoured to the pillar then the sharp right angle on my repo. I'll have to Breakout the panel hammer on that I think.

Franz · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:59 am Post subject:

Heres are the remains of my left side 52 pilar. Maybe these pictures will be of some help.

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Lowdown Dirty Rat · Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:18 am Post subject:

Ok. Gerson unfortunately says there is not enough demand for a repo early A-pillar Sad

So I have no choice but to alter the late barndoor ones I had purchased.

Before I dive in I just want to check the details.
Here is the the plan.
Drill out the spot welds that hold hold the top of the door rubber channel in place. This piece will not be moved but is separated to allow the panel underneath to slide. Next, drill out the welds that hold the two panels that make up the main a pillar on the outside edge. Then I can slide the panel that's under the door channel piece inwards to make the 7mm lip and 125 degree angle (red in the diagram). Then re-spot the two panels together and the door channel back in place. Add a little strip of metal to make the pinch line up again (blue in the diagram).
Hope you can follow that?

Now can anyone confirm that it's only the top section that is different?
I had a quick look at battered 52 and it seems that way. Question

Also, what happens where the 7mm lip meets the lower part? In the picture of the deluxe on the last page it was dented. Is that normal?

This is the bit I'm talking about.

My biggest problem with the 'slide' idea is this bit moving.

I assume the circled part is to remain the same?

Last question. Sorry. Bit easier this one. What's the hole? Wiring loom?

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Lowdown Dirty Rat · Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:36 pm Post subject:

So it's all in one place.
Early A from above

Courtesy of Franz

Panelvan · Samba Member Joined: April 04, 2004 Posts: 85

Whohooo nice find the SSS Apillar , Sir Scotty Step.

chassis number 20 043491 have the step

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Scotty · Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:46 am Post subject:

You can visually see in micro's pics that the pillar is a different shape and the seal channel hasn't moved. Good work guys. It'd be nice to be able to pin point the change for Tonny's web site
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Bergepanzer · Samba Member Joined: May 21, 2008 Posts: 122

Great!

Thank you very much!

So we got it finally:

Regards,

Jurgen

hugheseum · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:00 pm Post subject:

i took some time to measure (with a micrometer) the upper "a" pillar on my 52 kombi and matched them up in same spots to my 56 singlecab and i did find that the 52 pillar is wider than the later ones...............i only concentrated on the upper section right where the kink starts because its hot outside

so is this on the early 53s that still have the early style front window frames?
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Drew Ogden · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:41 pm Post subject:

Maybe these help. Crappy cell phone pics, but they show the lower portion.

Bergepanzer · Samba Member Joined: May 21, 2008 Posts: 122

Hi,

don´t panic. Please investigate first!

Here a pic of a NOS late A pillar in the area where you never see it from above ...

The profile made of two pressed halves is clearly visible here. Please don´t mind the bent flange. And for the newcomers: The outer windscreen frame is another panel folded and spot welded to the outer flanges. It is not part of the A pillar spare part!

So: Is the pre 53 A pillar really different? Or is - as also 52panelvan (Mark) already questioned - just the U profile for the door seal in a different position?

Just a proposal:

Is it like that?

90° angle on early ones?
125° on later ones?
Or just another door seal U profile position?

We all need a definite statement here.

Regards,

Jurgen

Scotty · Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:50 am Post subject:

Lowdown Dirty Rat · Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:32 pm Post subject:

Cheers dude.
That's customer service Very Happy

Gerson · Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:10 pm Post subject:

I have a beat down 52 standard in the shop, I will take a look at it and see if the pillars have been messed with, and I will compare them with the NOS post 53 pillars that I used to make the dies with........give me a couple of days...
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Lowdown Dirty Rat · Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:03 pm Post subject:

Gerson, Is it possible to tell the differences without having a NOS pillar. Don't you have a bunch of early and late barndoors as in your signature? Some will be Columbianised but together should give a clear picture no?
I need to get this fixed, my current pillars are useless unless they can be modified. Crying or Very sad

52panelvan · Samba Member Joined: June 07, 2006 Posts: 350

Is this an actual difference in the A pillar or just where the seal holding U section is welded to the pillar. I would have guessed the latter ?
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Gerson · Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:44 am Post subject:

this is the first I ever hear of this, I am sure the NOS A pillars that we used to make the dies were post 53....now where the fuck am I going to find a set of 50 to 53 NOS A pillars to make changes to my dies... Laughing

.....these are not exactly growing on trees, specially down here in Colombia.....
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