BONNEVILLE 2010 REPORT THREAD - all reports here please

[Mr. Motorhead]

That was 83mm with a stock stroke crank. Heads are stock valve size with a set of the springs that I sell installed. I just finished and test fired this engines twin, but instead of 83mm I used some 40hp 77mm that I turned into dometops (I'm working on a new page for the website for that one, it'll be a step by step for a really simple engine combo). The chambers on the cylinder heads were cut at a .060 stepcut to accommodate the .040 deck on the pistons, compression was at 7.8/1. Exhaust ports were cleaned out and matchported to the gaskets and exhaust. The cam is a stage two cam that all the German boys like. I think I'll monkey with the gear offset to make the cam come on a little later. I started with a 120 main jet here when I gave the boys the car with a selection of different jets to take with. They wound up putting in a 130 which was way big for the altitude in Bonneville. The color on the valves is tan, it does look pinkish in the picture (on the 1-2 side). I changed to a 118 jet for the 5 mile ride home, some of the black was already starting to blow out. The engine I just started on will have the 72mm stroke x 82.5 bore.
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[grueni]

83mm right. stroke? your 72mm ?
nice review mr. motorhead.
how much miles are on that engine and what rpm was it good for? and right tuning is same important like a good hardware. really rich and are this pinking marks in the one chamber?
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1960 1584cc turbocharged, 35,5/32 (11,117s 1/4mile )

[WickedWagens]

[Mr. Motorhead]

Finally, yes finally, got the engine I ran last year at Bonneville out and apart to check to see how all the modifications worked. The oil passage mod worked great, no problems. That was increasing the main bearing oil holes from 6mm to 8mm with a reamer. The main oil passage was reamed out to 10mm. Bearings looked good both rod and main. The red coating you see is a baked on coat of glyptol. This case had some corrosion issues and the glyptol solved that by sealing it off and it also allows the oil to run down a little faster.

This was also a test engine for a combo case boring tool I picked up a while back, the tooling was spot on with no problems, I set the cutters for .020 over. I won't be offering any boring service for a while yet until I get more of a feel for this tooling. This boring set will do main tunnels for 36hp, 356 and 912 plus the regular 40hp-1600 cases. I've done plenty of main tunnels over the years with my other boring tools, but the set for this one was totally strange so hence the test engine. This tool also has a boring bar for cam tunnels which I converted to 36hp by making some special mandrels for it, and yes it can be done contrary to what others have said. I've cut a couple cam tunnels but have not had the time to fuss with it an make an engine up to see how it fares.

Pistons are what I expected to see, the car was running way fat when it was run on the salt, they even off roaded it when they got back and killed a gas shock on the rear that I have to change out. The last run on the salt it got over heated when the timing got adjusted to high and the rings look a little toasty.

Heads look a little black from the rich burn but otherwise in perfect shape. All the other parts look primo so I'll cut a good case and put it all back together with new rings. I may install it in my oval and run it as a daily driver to see how it lasts.
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Check out the Bonneville project:
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"All limitations are self imposed."
Some Chinese guy

[36hplandspeedracer]

Since the Vintage Forum also inlcudes 40hp based engines, here is the 40hp engined Formula V of Matt Guzowski. This car is road raced regularly and went 103 mph across the salt flats.

Burly

[36hplandspeedracer]

Todd Penn 'DROVE' his 60 Pick-Up 1700 miles one way from Saskatoon Canada, swapped the 1600cc S/P for the SS 36 engine he hauled down in the bed and set the standard for Stone Stock T2 36hp powered racers. The he swapped motors again, and drove home. Todd gets this years Iron Man award for the 36hp Challenge.

Dan Durie and Glenn Patterson took the Beaver Geezers record holding Stone Stock sedan to the new 10,000 foot paved track in Mojave, California, but headwinds prevented a new record. This new Mojave Mile should prove popular with all the west coast VW challengers.

Here is another photo of all of the 36hp Challengers along with the air cooled and water cooled 130 and 150 Mile Per Hour Club racers.

Thanx to all for coming out and joining us on the Bonneville Salt Flats.

Burly

[36hplandspeedracer]

Down in Australia,the Ratmuller Team of Steve Muller and John Wendinger assembled a potent Stone Stock 36 challenger. In 2011, the SS record could head below the equator if all goes well next March!

Juan Cole put a Stone Stock 36hp engine in his BeetleBall racer, Herbie, and tuned and tuned just barely missing the current SS36 Record.

The fastest 36 powered car for 2010 was Richard Troys Denzel powered 59 Ghia coupe with a top speed of over 105 miles per hour. Watch the mail Richard, the trophy is on it's way.

[36hplandspeedracer]

Kim Slaughter also equipped his bone stock 36 engine with a Wolfsburg West Okrasa kit for his first visit to the salt.

Matt Kinney was on a cross country Thing trip so Taylor King put the #36 Super Stock Single sedan through it's paces.

Dave and Molly McComb created the '24 Hour Bug' in just one months time and put Tom Bruchs DSS 36hp engine in it for power.

[36hplandspeedracer]

Craig and Rose Wilson ran both a Stone Stock 36 from Britt Grannis and one of Tom Bruchs DSS 36 engines in their 67 Ghia.

Dave Manobla brought his Ghia coupe from Colorado and ran the DSS Ghia class with his Wolfsburg West equipped 36hp engine.

Jerry Avis played with a bunch of slick aero mods on his 65 Bug while running just a Stone Stock 36hp engine. The mods moved him up to the "1" Club category.

[36hplandspeedracer]

The Blackline Boys put mom and dad in the car and by meets end, all four were members of the exclusive "1" Club for 36hp powered cars having driven faster than 100 miles per hour. Congradulations to the entire McAllister family !

Britt Grannis put Rob 'Judgie' Judge from Ireland to work on his Ghia and ran Richard Troys big Okrasa 36 motor.

Back east, Bruce Cook took his 51 Canadian Standard to a new top speed of over 102 mph at the ECTA's Maxton meet.

[36hplandspeedracer]

Dick Beiths 36hp project for 2011-Watch out 150 miles per hour.

April Froak and 'Nitro' ran in Stone Stock Bug 36.

Bill Smiths beautiful 56 Ghia set the standard for SS 36 Ghia speeds.

[kmichael]

We had discussed not going to Bonneville this year because our engine was not ready. What a mistake that would have been! We hurriedly installed a WW Okrasa Kit on my original, well-worn 1958 engine and dragged the little beast up to that Great Place. After some issues with the linkage and jetting (thanks again Rick) the machine from the middle of the last century blasted to almost 71 mph! I'm still smiling.
The array of machinery, the smells of salt, petrol, high desert air all punctuated by the intermittent sounds of internal combustion engines basting across the whiteness made for a surreal scene. I repeated to myself, "I made it here, I made it."

Regards, Kim
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"The star of the beetle is still shining with undiminished brightness and you see for yourselves every day what vitality there is hidden in this car..."HeinzNordhoff

[36hplandspeedracer]

Ian and Dave

First, thanx for sharing the great photo line-up of this years 36hp Challenge and World of Speed. Due to unplanned life events, I have not even gotten mine off the cards and into the puter yet. Hopefully this next week I will make progress.

Second, thanx for making all of the effort in such a short time to not only build the Ghia and outfit it with the new WW kit, but for coming out to the salt to experience what land speed racing and especially the Bonneville Salt Flats, is all about.

Third, thanx for loaning your extra tires to Matt with the Formula V. They made a three mile per hour difference in his maximum speed. I know he truly appreciated your kindness to a total stranger.

It was a great event and the cammeraderie felt by all of the Challengers really made the experience special. I hope you will consider rejoining us again, maybe even as early as next year.

May the Speed be with you..................

Burly

[Roadcow]

Thanks Ian! You guys did an awesome build and your Ghia performed well. I'm sorry I didn't get to spend more time with you guys, next year!
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71 Westy Roadcow
67 Panel
63 Bug
66 Ghia Bonneville 2014
74 Ghia Vert
69 Bonneville Ghia 150 in Chico
69 Bonneville Ghia in Ireland
80 Cabby 2.1 16v
98 Passat

[Ian]

here's a link to all my pics, i tried to upload some videos but they wouldn't work so whatever...my friend sean and i built this ghia in 4 weeks which included a full front and rear suspension overhaul, new brakes, 36hp WW okrasa motor, bilstein shock install, battery relocation and cutoff switch with 2gauge through the tunnel with grommets at all locations, 3 point seat belt install, sandblasted and powdercoated rims, porsche 12v generator, and a fresh detail...the pics are out of order for some reason

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v449/66Kombi/Volkswagen%20Stuff/bonneville2010/

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Love and good roads!
IN LOVING MEMORY OF ROB CRESS 1968-2012 & KEN CRIMMINS 1957-2024

[Roadcow]

I pulled the Bumpers on my Ghia when I had the 1500cc Okrasa in it and it made no noticeable difference. It was hotter in the day and I dropped 2 mph.
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71 Westy Roadcow
67 Panel
63 Bug
66 Ghia Bonneville 2014
74 Ghia Vert
69 Bonneville Ghia 150 in Chico
69 Bonneville Ghia in Ireland
80 Cabby 2.1 16v
98 Passat

[WickedWagens]

Does anyone know where any other pictures are? I would like to see some of the other cars and see what "aero" mods were done to some of the cars.
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1968 Ghia Land Speed Car
G/CFALT 106.643 MPH
G/CGALT 113.131 MPH
G/CBGALT 134.606 MPH
G/CBFALT 146.715 MPH
G/CBGC 158.242 MPH
H/CPRO 93.383 MPH
H/CBGC 94.33 MPH
H/CBGALT 101.282 MPH
H/CBFALT 120.591 MPH

[Ian]

hey nice to meet everyone!! sean and i were stoked to build the ghia and make it out to bonneville in 4 weeks....see ya next year with some real power!

a couple cool pics from the weekend...

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All your Buses are belong to us.
Love and good roads!
IN LOVING MEMORY OF ROB CRESS 1968-2012 & KEN CRIMMINS 1957-2024

[slalombuggy]

Burly sent this out yesterday

brad

Results



Friends of the Challenge



Finally, here are the top speed results for the 2010 World of Speed held at the Bonneville Salt Flats in September. More information will be presented in Hot VW's in a future issue(next year!). In the meantime, I will be incommunicado for the next couple of weeks and wish all competitors good luck at Maxton and Goliad at the final 36hp Challenge events in October.



Tootaloo till then.................



Burly



36hp Challengers:





SS T2 Todd Penn 60 Pick-Up Canada 56.233 Base Record

Driven to and from Canada with a 1600cc engine, then engine swap to 36hp



SS Bug April Froke 57 Bug Sunroof California 59.149

Daughter of Dave & Molly McCoomb



SS Bug Juan Cole 63 Bug California 72.017

Beetle Ball competitor



SS Ghia Craig Wilson 67 Ghia Coupe California 71.125

Used Britt Grannis's SS Bug engine from 2009



SS Ghia Bill Smith 56 Ghia Coupe Arizona 71.314 Base Record

Restored original Coupe (most beautiful VW on the salt!). 83K on engine



1 Club Jerry Avis 65 Bug SS/Aero Oregon 72.035

Aero mods put this SS in the 1 Club arena(Called the 'Cheetle')



SSS Bug Taylor King 69 Bug California 68.932

Matt Kinney loaned them this 1380cc at the last moment to race



SSS Bug Justin McAllister 74 Bug Utah 99.370 New Record

Yes, it has a single 'modified' 28PIC carburetor !



DSS Bug Kim Slaughter 58 Bug California 70.914

Wolfsburg West Dual Carb Kit





DSS Bug Dave McCoombs 57 Bug Sunroof California 88.898

Used Tom Bruchs big Bruchrasa Single Port dual Carb motor



DSS Bug Dan McAllister 74 Bug Utah 99.650

Last years 103 mph motor with 3:44 R&P tranny



1 Club Dan McAllister 74 Bug DSS/Aero Utah 101.525 New 1 Member

Aero mods and using 3rd gear with 3:44 trans



1 Club Colton McAllsiter 74 Bug DSS/Aero Utah 103.723

Aero mods and using 3rd gear with 3:44 trans



1 Club Maylene McAllister 74 Bug DSS/Aero Utah 103.967 New 1 Member

Aero mods and using 3rd gear with 3:44 trans



DSS Ghia David Manobla 63 Ghia Coupe Colorado 79.093

Wolfsburg West Dual Carb Kit



DSS Ghia Britt Grannis 67 Ghia Coupe California 91.587

Used Richard Troys 1500cc Okrasa engine



DSS Ghia Craig Wilson 67 Ghia Coupe California 98.472

Used Tom Bruchs big Bruchrasa Single Port engine



DSS Ghia Richard Troy 59 Ghia Coupe California 105.777 New Record

Denzel engine. Fastest 36hp speed to date in 2010



NA36 Bug Colton McAllister 74 Bug(carb) Utah 101.945 New 1 Member

DSS engine from last year with modern carburetor



UNLTD 36 Dick Beith 68 Bug California No Speed

Display only. Will make innaugaral run in 2011





Big Block Air Cooled(non 36hp)130 Club:





130 Club Matt Guzowski Formula V 40hp Utah 103.089

Totally stock Formula car road racer



130 Club John Milner Formula V 2275 California 130.837

Fastest air cooled engine at WOS in 2010



130 Club Dick Wakefield 67 Bug 2275 Texas 117.693

Fitted with Heroods helper for stability



130 Club Brad Humenny Manx Type 2332 Canada 115.563

Is now the worlds fastest Dune Buggy !



130 Club Britt Grannis 67 Ghia 2275 California 122.496

Fastest air cooled VW bodied car at WOS



Water Cooled:





150 Club Gary Fergus Golf Oregon 154.222



150 Club Gabe Adams Golf R32 Colorado 158.948

3.2 VR6 Turbo 700hp Also road races in NASA series in GTS. Fastest VW at meet.



130 Club Rob Olsen Golf R32 122.127

VR6 with cams



130 Club Mark Biondi Golf 133.980



130 Club Loui Arnold Golf 88 GTi 136.053

VR6 Vortec Supercharged



130 Club Joey Marstall Golf Oregon 138.967



G/DT Rick Winder Rabbit PU Diesel Utah 87.648



F/DS Kevin Winder Streamliner DieselUtah 145.910

[Mr. Motorhead]

If anybody wants an inexpensive car to run for the 36hp challenge, here it is. I'm offering it for the same price I would have sold it for anyway, I just couldn't pull the stickers off, they look too cool. I did wash all the salt off though......

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1033345
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30 years experience in the sales of new and used auto parts!
36 horsepower parts for sale at http://www.aircooledresearch.com/
Or the new site at http://www.bugparts.com
Check out the Bonneville project:
http://aircooledresearch.com/docs/thebonnevilleproject.html#

"All limitations are self imposed."
Some Chinese guy