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mekanism Samba Member

Joined: June 19, 2013 Posts: 94 Location: San Diego, Ca
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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| What kind of reliability do you get with a Tencent engine? Are there any customers that have, say, 100k on one? I have been doing research on all of the swaps and have looked into staying with the WBX as well, looking to get the best bang for my buck. And how long is the wait list? |
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regis101 Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2005 Posts: 2078 Location: Livermore, Ca
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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I am going to assume that he can build a nice 2.2 that will pass the Cali smog ritual if you tell him that's what you need.
Heck. Just put more Cat on it. We've been doing that forever on any post 76 vehicle ever since Arnie and his boyz removed the 25 and out rule. _________________ Peace, ~R |
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hbmbguy Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2014 Posts: 39 Location: Henderson, NV
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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None of my engines live in the great state of Kalifornia as of yet. I have more engines in foreign countries than there (although some would argue that the Golden State is a foreign country!). I have one each in OR, WA, AZ, and NV, so all the neighboring states are covered, but no one smart enough in CA to buy one yet. If one of them has moved to CA I am not aware of it.
Just think, you could be the first. |
Do you know if the one in NV is still here? _________________ 1987 Westy |
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BetaVan Samba Member
Joined: September 14, 2011 Posts: 209 Location: Redwood City, CA
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Mine has a slight nick on the bottom side that must have come from that belt -- but for the life of me I cannot see how it made contact. Would like to assure it won't recur before I replace the hose. PS: Motor mounts are nearly new. |
Ahwahnee - I didn't see the text below your uploaded image until now. Sorry for not giving a bad answer I may have accidentally answered it though. My guess is that my whole coolant tank system was jostled forwards a bit, and that push was enough to touch the belt. I can't see it happening any other way. |
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dhaavers Samba Member

Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 8508 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| What's the HP and torque on the tencent engine? |
I think you'll find 10c's response in this thread near the bottom of page 2... _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
<EDITED TO PROTECT INNOCENT PIXELS> |
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BetaVan Samba Member
Joined: September 14, 2011 Posts: 209 Location: Redwood City, CA
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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@Ahwahnee - The hose below the one you have pointed out. The PO had a metal H Pipe made that I don't think is to spec. There was also a rigid plastic pipe connecting what should have been one hose. It's the hose that connects to the water pump. It has 2 bends - hence the need for a diy rig job. Don't know if they couldn't find the OEM hose at the time, but that's what happened.
Also, coolant tank with all the hoses attached was a bit loose - as in sort of free floating I think what happened was as we drove down some fire roads, hitting big bumps made everything move back and forth. A touch here, a touch there, and before you know it, I was smelling coolant at a rest stop.
Tank system tightened down and a new hose. |
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mbwesty Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2007 Posts: 296
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| What's the HP and torque on the tencent engine? I am looking into a upgrade/conversion for my 88 Westy. From what I read GW is very expensive when compared to Subura/Zetec/etc, but I think that's from couple years back as I think they are all about the same now. I can swap the engines myself, and I am gearing towards an upgraded Waterboxer 2.5 as my kids will be able to get mechanic to work on it when I am dead...I need more power than my stocked 2.1 and I can find data and reviews on the 2.5 but can't seems to find the spec. on this highly praised tencent engine. Please let me know. Thanks! Tim |
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Ahwahnee Samba Member

Joined: June 05, 2010 Posts: 10293 Location: Mt Lemmon, AZ
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| ...Only issue was my AC belt sawed a pinhole leak through a hose 100 miles from home... |
This hose?
Mine has a slight nick on the bottom side that must have come from that belt -- but for the life of me I cannot see how it made contact. Would like to assure it won't recur before I replace the hose. PS: Motor mounts are nearly new. |
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BetaVan Samba Member
Joined: September 14, 2011 Posts: 209 Location: Redwood City, CA
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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@ Olivelawn - It's possible. I may have a gig that day (photographer). Still waiting to hear back from client, but if not, I think I will try and make it. I'd like to hear about the trip to SA and look at other vans  |
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olivelawn Samba Member
Joined: January 17, 2012 Posts: 73 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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| @Betavan-Are you coming up to Ocean Beach for the 8/25 send off in the new TC equipped Westy in 2 weeks? I'd love to have a look. |
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BetaVan Samba Member
Joined: September 14, 2011 Posts: 209 Location: Redwood City, CA
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:43 am Post subject: |
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| Why are you changing your engine? I thought yours was recently rebuilt before you bought your van. |
She's running great actually. Just got back from 1000 mile trip - up to Tahoe, Lassen Nat'l Park, and back. Only issue was my AC belt sawed a pinhole leak through a hose 100 miles from home. Duck tape got us home, and VanCafe remedied the issue with a new hose.
Unfortunately, I've got the fever man! Getting another van This time it's a full Westy camper with 10cent already installed. Picking it up in a week.
Synchroid, I will keep you posted, or PM me in a few weeks. I might forget because I imagine I'll be driving... a lot! |
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stevey88 Samba Member
Joined: January 16, 2008 Posts: 1317 Location: Fremont, SF Bay Area
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Betavan,
Why are you changing your engine? I thought yours was recently rebuilt before you bought your van. _________________ Steve |
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insyncro Banned

Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 15086 Location: New York
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:32 am Post subject: |
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| They are smooth runners from my personal experience. |
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syncroid Samba Member

Joined: May 30, 2006 Posts: 319 Location: CA
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:10 am Post subject: |
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| If one of them has moved to CA I am not aware of it. |
Coming soon to the Bay Area. God it's like waiting for Xmas morning! |
...would love to check out the vanistan in person. Can you keep me posted? |
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Crankey Samba Member

Joined: July 11, 2004 Posts: 2672
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:50 am Post subject: |
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wow, this is a great looking WBX ! |
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BetaVan Samba Member
Joined: September 14, 2011 Posts: 209 Location: Redwood City, CA
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| If one of them has moved to CA I am not aware of it. |
Coming soon to the Bay Area. God it's like waiting for Xmas morning! |
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ZimZam Samba Member

Joined: July 21, 2005 Posts: 562 Location: Talkeetna, AK
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:05 am Post subject: |
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That pop top camper is ingenious. sorry for the continuation of hijack _________________ '85 Cabriolet (Margo)
'87 Westy (Heidi)
'75 Porsche 911S Targa
"Nobody trusts anyone, or why did they put tilt on a pinball machine.”
- Steve McQueen
"It's just metal, when rusted and dented , anything you will do will be better. Stop being afraid. What they (VW) did many year ago is not better then what you will do now." -Ben |
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tencentlife Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2006 Posts: 10153 Location: Abiquiu, NM, USA
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That sure looks like it. The guy's name is Jason, and he was getting it together for a show last year, I shipped him the engine in June. It having my exhaust would be a sure way to confirm.
dhaavers, I don't like to put up numbers because, like Ben said so well, it's not about numbers. But numbers attract bench racers like garbage attracts rats, and I'm not sure which I dislike more.
Ben has one thing wrong, because he's too kind, and that is that I'm too humble. No, I'm damn proud of what I do, and I don't like it being picked apart by self-important people who will never be my customers.
But, I have published my dyno chart and peak numbers a couple times here already, so it would be unfair if I didn't admit that. Here are 2 links to threads that I think contained useful discussions (and not just because I come off looking good!) where you can read the info. A quick search would turn these up for you but I'll do you the favor:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=383201
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=421679
Any prospective customer is welcome to ask me for that info any time they want. The OP had already asked and I had sent him the dyno chart before he even began this thread. I think he's smart to ask if someone can let him test-drive one, I'm only sorry there's no one near him that can oblige. Reviewing my PM's just now I realise that I neglected to answer his followup question about owners in the bay area, had I done so this thread might not be here.
My smug comparison to Zetec above is based on info Jim used to have on his site, and also on the impression of one of my customers who test-drove a local NA Zetec Vanagon and mine, by the time he shifted mine into third gear he was saying how much more torque it had. The numbers supported his impressions, I wouldn't say anything based on just a seat-of-the-pants. That said, I have to reiterate how much admiration I have for Jim and his crew and what they are doing, I think it's fantastic and no one else has developed such a complex and complete systems approach to the conversion question. Kudos to them. Once again, it's not only about power, their passion and dedication shines. _________________ Shop for unique and useful Vanagon accessories at the Vanistan shop:
https://intrepidoverland.com/vanistan/
also available at VanCafe.com!
Please don't PM here, I will not reply.
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Baxta Samba Member

Joined: November 09, 2008 Posts: 356 Location: Abbotsford, BC
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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This one:
Oh, and this was my contribution:
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what color is that? I'm guessing it's not a stock color. |
I saw this truck at what I think was its' unveiling, at the Great Canadian VW Show in 2009. I was certainly the second nicest Syncro there - by a long shot. Dude said it was a stock colour, and by looking at behind the seats etc., I'd have to agree...
I thought I took more pics, but this is the only one I can find:
Cheers! _________________ Greg
'87 Syncro Westy 'Bastian'
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nelinor Samba Member
Joined: March 21, 2008 Posts: 98 Location: Ventura County / SoCal
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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This one:
Oh, and this was my contribution:
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what color is that? I'm guessing it's not a stock color. _________________ 1983.5 VW Vanagon Westfalia - manual - EJ22
2002 Subaru Impreza Wrx
1990 Nissan 300zx tt |
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