Fog lights! with a factory look.

indytriple · Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:12 am Post subject:

For those of you that are interested, here's an updated working link to the Busschmiede grille/fog light combo:

http://www.busschmiede.de/shop/T3-Unteres-Kuehlergrill-mit-Zusatzscheinwerfern-passend-fuer-alle-T3

Now a paltry 470 euro plus shipping across the pond. Yikes. It is sweet looking, though.
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88formula · Samba Member Joined: February 15, 2011 Posts: 75

88formula · Samba Member Joined: February 15, 2011 Posts: 75

Done and done.

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I got my hella ff75 and a set of micro cube ff. And have them mounted now.
To put the fog lights in I only had to trim about 1/4 or so off the top of the ducts.

Mounting them took some thinking, but turned out great!
The steel bumper in behind the cover is actually pretty thick. Drilled and taped it, and threaded bolts into it. There now as it's mounted to the body and not the damn.

The "fun cube" is mounted to the fiberglass bumper. I'm not sure how it's going to work out. I hope it dosent shake.

and i got those shots for "upgraded" brake cooling.

chimivee · Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:58 pm Post subject:

napat · Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:25 am Post subject:

I have made this fog light housing myself. Works great!

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88formula · Samba Member Joined: February 15, 2011 Posts: 75

i dont think break cooling will be overly important driving around town. but over loaded and rolling down a hill, i have a good idea on how to keep them cool. i used 3" dryer ducting or whatever it was to route air at the rotters on my E30 for autocross. ill post pics if i can find some, or later when i dig it out of the snow.

now im leaning to the hella ff75

little bit of cutting, but im goning to make it fit.

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this is for the rocks

hard to see but $12 shields are cheaper to replace.

Crankey · Samba Member Joined: July 11, 2004 Posts: 2672

I sorta like the idea of lights down there. I've seen it before on a German doka. it was all pimped out with chrome fender arches and stuff I didn't like but the lights looked good, but they did look like marker lights more than driving lights.

obviously, these are break cooling holes though...how much cooling is really needed ?

kjurkic · Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:37 am Post subject: roof v. bumper lights

mariusstrom · Samba Member Joined: March 29, 2010 Posts: 745

I'm under the impression that some US states also make lights over the windshield illegal. I have friends here in Washington, and they've gotten pulled over for having them uncovered (not on, just uncovered) while on the road. Tread carefully for road use.

IdahoDoug · Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:48 pm Post subject:

Roof lights are generally subject to causing a lot of light blowback because they light a cone of dust up close to your eyes and directly in line with your line of sight (vs a light several feet below your line of sight like a bumper mounted light). They also are apt to light up the hood - again a source of light in the driver's view. The rally vehicle shown has them wisely mounted back on the roof to avoid lighting the hood.

Funny you mtn bike at night - teaches some fast lessons about vehicle illumination, eh? I also ride and race mtn bikes at night.

Anyhow, vehicle roof lights would generally be a bad idea for poor visibility conditions unless you're in a place where you can fire merciless amounts of light forward so being dazzled is less of an issue - such as racing. A vehicle on a public roadway with roof lights would be less effective.

DougM
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IrideWheelies · Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:32 pm Post subject:

kjurkic,

When you use the roof mounted lights in fog don't they illuminate all the fog in front of your windshield?

I always thought roof mount lights would be bad in fog or dust because the helmet mounted lights I use for night mountain biking are. I can hardly see through the beam if I use a bright helmet light in fog or dust while the same light on my handlebar works great in those conditions.
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kjurkic

Howdy all

It has been my experience, with many vehicles in often extreme conditions, that a good rule-of-thumb is "the higher the better".

Low-mounted lights have the drawback of not reaching very far when the road is anything other than dead-flat. It is also annoying to drop $$ for the good quality lamps, just to lose a lens to a stray rock or curb.

I also have a rally/daily car that I drive regularly at night, in craptacular weather. I moved the 4x100W driving lights off the front rack that came with the car, and bolted them to the roof. This improved the lighting so much that I have been using my 6" round driving lights even in heavy fog/rain/snow, as I don't get the blinding "light blob" just in front of the car.

On a westy, I would consider recessing them in the front fascia of the roof; for my Vanagon, I have been looking for some cargo basket or even an emergency light rig & replace the flashers with driving & fogs. It will not do wonders for the appearance, but if seeing where you are going is the primary concern, then mount them high is what I say.

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regards
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PS I cannot speak for your jurisdiction, but in my area the police have never pulled my over or otherwise bothered me about these. This car is a daily driver.

OddN · Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:18 am Post subject:

rfoubi · Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:38 am Post subject:

As far as under the bumper goes, personally I drive off road too much to consider it, but if you are just using it for normal use what you have to worry about with the lower mounting point is not hitting them on stuff, but rather rocks/gravel smashing them. Get too close to one by rig or snow plow and smash there goes your investment. I've had great success with th rockblocker style vinyl like clear plastic Light overlays. My first set of fogs got smashed within months due to the boulders they like to sand the road with here in Bc. After that I bought a sheet of the film, cut it put it on and no problems. Just a thouht

IdahoDoug · Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:33 pm Post subject:

88,

I give man, I give. You rant about folks with excessively bright blue lights in your area and how you're "not part of that" then bring up and link blue lights and insist you're putting 100w bulbs in whatever you get. Huh?

I think you chose the location for the lights and simply cannot let go of that decision. And don't get me started that those holes were intended to ensure proper air flow gets to the front disc brakes due to the air flow change of the spoiler. I'm sure you've got a good reason for that as well and I can't wait to hear it.

Anyhow, it's all good. Room on the roads for another set of too-bright blue lights, I guess - even here in Idaho.

DougM
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88formula · Samba Member Joined: February 15, 2011 Posts: 75

kamzcab86 · Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:38 pm Post subject:

rfoubi · Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:21 pm Post subject:

So I'm not even going to get into the debate of "real lights" vs crap. Whatever, it's your van do what you want, someones always gonna have something bad to say about it. Anyway as far as factory ish look, this is what I did on my rig.

I just cut out the lower grill and built a little mini light bar out of angle stock aluminum to bolt the lights to. I like the look, they are out of the way, look like they could be stock but yet look unique. And I went with shitty lights. Well they may or may not be but I just bought 60 dollar lights at Canadian tire and they throw lots of light, are aimed properly and light up the logging roads nicely at night. Less than 80 bucks for everything and they've been on there 5 + years.

syncrodoka · Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:19 pm Post subject:

These are what I am running.

Link

Not what you are asking about but very durable and good light output.

IdahoDoug · Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:13 pm Post subject:

I guess I should also chime in to say that I'm also not trying to be a dick (heh). There is quality automotive lighting, and there's "other stuff". I'm trying to keep you away from the other stuff. It's worth noting that most people have never driven behind a set of quality lamps. Once you have experienced this, I'd think it hard to move back down to the other stuff. Ironically, the other stuff is often priced at or above the price for quality lamps.

DougM
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