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obnoxiousblue Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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I used the accordion style exhaust piping. _________________ Mike
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Boesen Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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We had a snowstorm here today, haven't shoveled the sidewalks to the garage yet. Tomorrow after I do, let me double check the hose. I think it may actually be the left heater hose I used instead. _________________ 1979 Westfalia Deluxe http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=474334&highlight=iowa |
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Boesen Samba Member

Joined: April 12, 2011 Posts: 541 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Wild Bill wrote: |
| Anyone have the part number(s) for the flexiable cardboard tubes that are between the heater box dump and the metal exhaust tubes? |
I replaced mine this summer as had one cardboard tube missing, and another deteriorated badly. The right side heater blower hose in engine compartment fits fine for connecting to the dump pipes from the flaps. One hose can be cut to get two sections then use hose clamps. Worked fine for me. Never could find the actual replacement ones as its an odd size. http://www.busdepot.com/211261236 _________________ 1979 Westfalia Deluxe http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=474334&highlight=iowa |
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obnoxiousblue Samba Member

Joined: February 21, 2007 Posts: 3036 Location: Commack, NY
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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It's quite alright... Lol
I half assumed it.
I have no clue though, thus my shared confusion.
The VIN is correct, and I've checked the plate.
All come back as a 78. But the bus is titled as a 77. I wonder if the DMV titled it as a 77 based on its production date, and not model year or of someone in the bus' past mistakingly registered it as a 77 and that just carried on to me? _________________ Mike
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vw76westy Samba Member

Joined: May 06, 2007 Posts: 1584 Location: so cal
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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sorry about that
but now that i did read it
it says chassis number 2382004511
which makes it a 78 modal year
not a 77 modal year
wait,wait..........
i read again
it even says modal year 1978
so how is it that the m-code says its a 77
when the chassis number clearly makes it a 78
the chassis number is the first line on the m-plate by the way _________________ order your BAY WINDOW T-SHIRT here http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1526918
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obnoxiousblue Samba Member

Joined: February 21, 2007 Posts: 3036 Location: Commack, NY
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Your sarcasm is very refreshing!
No, I'm asking why my bus, a 1977, is apparently equipped as a 78 from the factory. If a GE engine is coded for 78/79 then why would one be factory (m code above) in my 77 bus.
I'm familiar with the ease of parts swaps in these cars.
Did it occur to you to read the decoded plate
Busdaddy, that's a good explanation. I didn't know when the model year "changes" so mine is apparently a very late 77. Engine swap or not. Thanks! _________________ Mike
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busdaddy Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| vw76westy wrote: |
did it ever occur to you that at some point in the buses life
the engine took a shit
and the owner at the time decided to buy a used engine insted of rebuilding the original ........ |
Very plausible as at one time wrecking yards were overflowing with low mileage near new buses, but also consider the production date being 3 days before the summer holiday/model year changeover, maybe some of next years parts made it to the line ahead of the break? _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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vw76westy Samba Member

Joined: May 06, 2007 Posts: 1584 Location: so cal
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| obnoxiousblue wrote: |
My bus is a 77, though oddly, the M plate decodes to say its a 77. More confusing is that it was built 7/27/77
Mine is the bus phoneguy is talking about, it does have the dump tubes.
Mine is a GE engine as stated above, what does that mean though? Why would my 77 bus, have an engine coded to 78/79? Or is my bus really a closeted 78?
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seriously your asking how can a 40 year vw possibly have a engine
from a newer bus that happens to be the same size and will bolt right in
did it ever occur to you that at some point in the buses life
the engine took a shit
and the owner at the time decided to buy a used engine insted of rebuilding the original ........ _________________ order your BAY WINDOW T-SHIRT here http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1526918
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SGKent  Samba Member

Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 42925 Location: at the beach in Northern Wokistan
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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the change year was 1978. Someone has put a later engine in yours. That said check the front VIN with the rear Vin and be sure they match the M-code. _________________
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obnoxiousblue Samba Member

Joined: February 21, 2007 Posts: 3036 Location: Commack, NY
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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My bus is a 77, though oddly, the M plate decodes to say its a 77. More confusing is that it was built 7/27/77
Mine is the bus phoneguy is talking about, it does have the dump tubes.
Mine is a GE engine as stated above, what does that mean though? Why would my 77 bus, have an engine coded to 78/79? Or is my bus really a closeted 78?
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vw76westy Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:15 am Post subject: |
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i have consistantly seen them on GE engines
which have hydrollic lifters (78-79)
and on vanogons also........
so if that 77 has a 78-78 GE engine
the dump tubes and controll boxes came with the engine _________________ order your BAY WINDOW T-SHIRT here http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1526918
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Wildthings Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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| If you really want them then you can get such tubing from any decent FLAPS. It will run fine without them. |
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Wild Bill Samba Member

Joined: January 02, 2006 Posts: 1013 Location: Pepsi-Cola, Fl
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone have the part number(s) for the flexiable cardboard tubes that are between the heater box dump and the metal exhaust tubes? _________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Life in the Fast Lane ?....What the Hell does that feel Like?"
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Wildthings Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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| phoneguy wrote: |
Resurrecting an old thread with a question.
I know of a 77 that has them, is this an aberration ? |
Could be just a part of the great transporter stew. |
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busdaddy Samba Member

Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 53181 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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| phoneguy wrote: |
Resurrecting an old thread with a question.
I know of a 77 that has them, is this an aberration ? |
Tough to say, 77 production dated 78 model?, transplanted later engine?, who knows? _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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phoneguy Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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Resurrecting an old thread with a question.
I know of a 77 that has them, is this an aberration ? _________________ "When my ship comes in I'll be at the airport"
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Collie Samba Member

Joined: April 03, 2006 Posts: 1285 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Am I wrong here?
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Yes.
What would the logic be? Automatics need to dump heat and manuals don't? |
Hey, I dont know what the logic would be but its something I read here a long time ago....
I took them off and all was well with the world......... |
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Wildthings Samba Member

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Collie wrote: |
I thought they were only for automatics.......
Am I wrong here?
I had them on my '79 Auto Westy. |
People seem to feel they were an emission control device. By dumping the heater air underneath it lowered the temperature of the fuel tank and lessened evaporation. I don't think they had much if anything to do with engine cooling. VW eliminated them on the air cooled Vanagons which had the tank located far away from the flapper valves. |
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EZ Gruv King of Plaid

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Collie wrote: |
Am I wrong here?
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Yes.
What would the logic be? Automatics need to dump heat and manuals don't? _________________ Eric
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Collie Samba Member

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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I thought they were only for automatics.......
Am I wrong here?
I had them on my '79 Auto Westy. |
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