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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 3:31 pm    Post subject: bergmann Reply with quote

I agree with you RC, my mistake was buying a bergmann engine
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No need to apologize to me RC, where all friends in here.
I wasn't really apologizing to you Steve.....more to the general readership. I don't like being the spreader of misinformation and always try to remain humble enough to admit and apologize for my errors and mistakes.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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aircooled356 wrote:
Stay away from the fast yellow ones.
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They don't last very long. Wink



SOB...What happened to that Shocked
Man what a bummer.
nice rockers,so the empi rods take a licking&kicking & keep on ticking.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

did he use ketchup for the pushrod tubes modoc? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked

Holy missing..well...everything Batman!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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they forgot the piston..


Now THAT'S funny! I think they also forgot the other half of the cylinder though. Shocked

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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SOB...What happened to that Shocked

"Perhaps it's the result of an anxiety"
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JB weld the case halves....that'll keep the fretting to a minimum. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they forgot the piston..
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aircooled356 wrote:
Stay away from the fast yellow ones.
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They don't last very long. Wink



SOB...What happened to that Shocked
Man what a bummer.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's my understanding that Bernie still runs the show, just in Oklahoma now, or so I thought from what I picked up in the (largely atrocious) feedback thread.
Not my understanding of the move. I could be wrong but I don't think so. Why would such a competent builder just drive off a quality cliff?

RC


RC Bernie still run's the show, and own's the business.
As for the change in quality... Confused
Then I stand corrected.....my humble apologies.......

RC


No need to appologize to me RC, where all friends in here.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:01 pm    Post subject: bergmann Reply with quote

Kaboom!!See Mr Tuckers post, that was my motor he rebuilt, comp,etly after 500 or so miles.The extent of the poor quality was not known, we tore it down due to a massive oil leak and wanted to check cam and bearings we were quite suprised at all of the poor work and poor parts. LOTS of EMPI Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You see.....there's the rub, 67beetle.
Bergmann was a great engine builder with a solid reputation and then sold the business and the name to the guy in Oklahoma, and that's where things went way wrong. I have no doubt that the 2 engines you referenced were super builds and I'm glad for that. The same engines today would most likely turn into a nightmare. Now I say this while trying to live by the philosophy of NEVER badmouthing the competition. That is how strongly I feel about the rep of that guy that I would break my own ethical guideline. You have never seen me badmouth any other vendor since I joined this site and there are a few that come close to Bergmann's poor quality.

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RC,

I agree about the nightmare. That is why I posted the years.
Personally, I let the track record of the vendor speak for itself.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stay away from the fast yellow ones.
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They don't last very long. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SRP1 wrote:
RockCrusher wrote:
bugnut68 wrote:
It's my understanding that Bernie still runs the show, just in Oklahoma now, or so I thought from what I picked up in the (largely atrocious) feedback thread.
Not my understanding of the move. I could be wrong but I don't think so. Why would such a competent builder just drive off a quality cliff?

RC


RC Bernie still run's the show, and own's the business.
As for the change in quality... Confused
Then I stand corrected.....my humble apologies.......

RC
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:22 pm    Post subject: bergmann Reply with quote

I own a 2387 BB. that was saved from the trash bin, I purchased it outright as a turnkey in 2008, from Mr Bergmann who answers the phone and sells all of the jive and bullshit himself, from the Shawnee Okl. shop.I had heard he was a good guy in the past, definetly not my expierence with him.Claimed it was dyno run and tuned, we had to completly rejet it just to get it to start and run, then further carb work. Stay away, many good builders to choose from here on the Samba.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RockCrusher wrote:
bugnut68 wrote:
It's my understanding that Bernie still runs the show, just in Oklahoma now, or so I thought from what I picked up in the (largely atrocious) feedback thread.
Not my understanding of the move. I could be wrong but I don't think so. Why would such a competent builder just drive off a quality cliff?

RC


RC Bernie still run's the show, and own's the business.
As for the change in quality... Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bugnut68 wrote:
It's my understanding that Bernie still runs the show, just in Oklahoma now, or so I thought from what I picked up in the (largely atrocious) feedback thread.
Not my understanding of the move. I could be wrong but I don't think so. Why would such a competent builder just drive off a quality cliff?

RC
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RockCrusher wrote:
You see.....there's the rub, 67beetle.
Bergmann was a great engine builder with a solid reputation and then sold the business and the name to the guy in Oklahoma, and that's where things went way wrong. I have no doubt that the 2 engines you referenced were super builds and I'm glad for that. The same engines today would most likely turn into a nightmare. Now I say this while trying to live by the philosophy of NEVER badmouthing the competition. That is how strongly I feel about the rep of that guy that I would break my own ethical guideline. You have never seen me badmouth any other vendor since I joined this site and there are a few that come close to Bergmann's poor quality.

RC


It's my understanding that Bernie still runs the show, just in Oklahoma now, or so I thought from what I picked up in the (largely atrocious) feedback thread.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DarthWeber wrote:
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Contact (or PM) Paul (RockCrusher) at RC Enterprises in Parkesburg, PA, he'll take care of you.

BTW, those are Rader wheels, commonly available everywhere (at VW places).


Yeah, thanks, missed that. Thanks for the wheels.

Oh!! Awesome name! Very Happy
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