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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok so got a question. I'm almost done wiring the main components for starting the bug *starter, ignition switch/starter switches, fuse box, distributer, generator* but have a question about the two boxes on the driver side. I believe they are voltage regulator and mystery machine
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also trying to figure out what carb I have, I think they are dual webber dual port ICT's.
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some people were wondering about the watsons street works wiring harness and what the benefits were, well here's a pic that kinda describes the way I feel about it
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On the left is the new fuse box, on the right the original. well that's all... I hope that someone can identify those two parts for me *first two pictures*. the issue that I'm running into with those two components is how do I wire those up with watsons kit? the kit itself does not account for a voltage regulator or the mystery component
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

building it mostly as a dd but also for kicks and the learning. I'm not ready for retirement lol, for 15 more years for that. I'm also building it as a stock drag car. well, stock in as much as the pancake 4 and not modifying the body. as much as I can keep original style, I will.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ssdd
i love the spiders web.
i bet the spider is the cause !!!

what is purpose of car
1: dd
2; offroad only.
3: for kicks.
4: learning experience.
5: bored. (retired)

im under 3-5 category

here is/ was my plan
structural , repairs.
brakes.
wheel bearings and suspension repairs. (stops , rolls and leans and bounces safely)
engine. +(flush and lube tranny)
electrics all fixed.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok so recently got the throttle cable connected, turns out the tube out the back of the doghouse *towards the front of the vehicle* was bent upward into the firewall... through painstaking care *and lots of frustration* I managed to bend it down enough, got it through the doghouse, and seated properly. I know this is moving slowly, but with family, work, my first project *jeep cherokee* and now a third project *aquarius 23 sailboat* and most time consuming of all, work, time has been precious. my goal is july to have her up and running.

what is a good method of securing the coil and maybe a good location for it?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks gore, I plan on it.

Ok, question. I am anxious to get the bug started, but I don't have an ignition switch. so I was going to connect the terminals on the starter solonoid but I just found out that I connected the terminals on the voltage regulator inside the bug. would this have damaged anything? I'm a little scared now. so I don't know what the starter solonoid looks liike. I know that I didn't get any reaction out of the engine at all. can I start the bug without the ignition the way that I had thought? also, very important question. the ground strap from the transmission is disconnected. I don't know where the other end is supposed to connect
Transmission > strap > ????
There are also several connections on the coil that don't have connections going to them. I have a positive and a negative, from the wiring harness, but that's the only ones connected to the coil. there's a wire clipped out of the wiring harness, I don't know what it was, where it went to, or color.
Nutshell with this post update... getting a wiring harness from http://www.watsons-streetworks.com/vw.beetle.wiring.html . I'm just wanting to hear the engine run right now. what's the minimum I need to get that satisfaction?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hahaha love the motor i would leave the paint as is
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

all those are still around, good to see them written down though, I keep forgetting about strictly speed. due to my problems, if I can't get my engine started today, I'm going to be going over to vintage vee dub next week sometime and see what they say
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SirCyber wrote:
bremerton

Rolling Eyes I think you told me that before..
If you were A little closer Id offer to come over and give you A hand fingering out some of the problems, but that's A good 1hr drive(speeding) and A toll, or A 30min drive(speeding) and A 30min ferry ride Rolling Eyes there is A good little VW shop over there! if your looking for parts.

"vintage vee dub..still there...360-479-2457
located on hwy3 in Gorst between Port Orchard and Bremerton
they do all forms of aircooled repair/resto"


"Strictly Speed is a engine tranny builder..."bench work" only, specializing in hi-po go fast stuff... Vintage Vee Dub is a general repair shop that also does resto and performance engine stuff....both are highly recommended!!"

"Helmut's German Auto in Bremerton"

I haven't been over that way in A long time so I dont know if thy are all still around or not?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SirCyber,, were in Wa. are you??


never know when I might need parts Laughing just kiding Razz Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joel wrote:
vw_hank wrote:
Joel wrote:
vw_hank wrote:

The linkage for you carbs looks like maby old type-3 linkage?


They're Weber ICTs with what looks like a Scat Swivel linkage.
Just uses a standard solex barrel nut to clamp the throttle cable to it.
the problem he is having is that the cable isn't reaching the linkage.


What cable? Laughing

As Mrbigmanx pointed out it doesn't even have a cable, or if it does it's snapped or pulled through the back.

If it doesn't reach that linkage, it's not gonna reach a stock carb either.


SirCyber wrote:
also, have an interesting problem. the throttle cable seems to be for a single carburator, but mine is a dual. the throttle will not reach the link between the two carbs, nor do I know if I need additional parts *something to fit the connection to*. One more question...

I was just going off that.
didn't pay the pic much attention, fingered he puled the cable out to see why it was short or something Smile but now that I read his next post and I see he was trying to run it around the fan shroud Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok I thought maybe it went through the fan shroud, then thought that it couldn't possibly go there. then I looked up the fan design, and shroud... thanks for the help, I will see what I can tomorrow, I'm going to try one more time to get the bug running, going to make sure that the engine is grounded, then give it one more go. have some guys that are coming over to help me, both avid bug guys I trust. hopefully with the three of us I can hear it running. any way to tell if this is an upgraded motor or a stock 1600cc?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vw_hank wrote:
Joel wrote:
vw_hank wrote:

The linkage for you carbs looks like maby old type-3 linkage?


They're Weber ICTs with what looks like a Scat Swivel linkage.
Just uses a standard solex barrel nut to clamp the throttle cable to it.
the problem he is having is that the cable isn't reaching the linkage.


What cable? Laughing

As Mrbigmanx pointed out it doesn't even have a cable, or if it does it's snapped or pulled through the back.

If it doesn't reach that linkage, it's not gonna reach a stock carb either.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joel wrote:
vw_hank wrote:

The linkage for you carbs looks like maby old type-3 linkage?


They're Weber ICTs with what looks like a Scat Swivel linkage.
Just uses a standard solex barrel nut to clamp the throttle cable to it.
the problem he is having is that the cable isn't reaching the linkage.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In your 2nd photo of the engine, I see the tube in the fan shroud for the throttle cable but no cable. Get a throttle cable and like others have suggested, the barrel nut and you should have it hooked up in no time. The cable feeds through the back of the fan shroud and comes out here at the yellow arrow.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vw_hank wrote:

The linkage for you carbs looks like maby old type-3 linkage?


They're Weber ICTs with what looks like a Scat Swivel linkage.
Just uses a standard solex barrel nut to clamp the throttle cable to it.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://vintagebus.com/wiring/

Go there and look over the wiring diagrams!! your cars A 1971 1302 Wink might be some help!!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well looks like I'm at a standstill until I can afford a new wiring harness. I currently don't have an ignition switch, and well, I wanted to try to start the bug today. so connected a battery and connected what I could tell of the wires, and only got the wires REALLY hot when I connected a screwdriver between the negative and positive side of the starter solonoid. I may not have wired it correctly, but regardless, I need a new wiring harness anyways. so now gotta wait for the funds for that. any advice before I do this would be helpful, but I'm fairly certain that's what's needed right now
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and just A side note,, clean off that motor before you start working on it! and well your shopping you need A rear motor tin, and some heater hose before you start driving it around..
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SirCyber wrote:
http://www.jbugs.com/product/131721349.html?Catego...s-clutches
so the clutch adjustment wing nut really needs to be a legit one? such as this>?
Yes! Very Happy A standered wing nuts just not going to do it..

The linkage for you carbs looks like maby old type-3 linkage? or what thy call bell-clank linkage? looks like maby you just need to git A cable extender? and A new barrel nut like this, http://www.jbugs.com/product/3171.html?Category_Code=vw-bug-accelerator-cables-1968-1971
Your working on it so you know if this well do the job Wink
As for the shift rod coupler http://www.jbugs.com/product/311798211.html?Category_Code=vw-shifter-boots-bushings-couplers
looks like your missing some parts?
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