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SirCyber Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2011 Posts: 28 Location: WA
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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ok so got a question. I'm almost done wiring the main components for starting the bug *starter, ignition switch/starter switches, fuse box, distributer, generator* but have a question about the two boxes on the driver side. I believe they are voltage regulator and mystery machine
also trying to figure out what carb I have, I think they are dual webber dual port ICT's.
some people were wondering about the watsons street works wiring harness and what the benefits were, well here's a pic that kinda describes the way I feel about it
On the left is the new fuse box, on the right the original. well that's all... I hope that someone can identify those two parts for me *first two pictures*. the issue that I'm running into with those two components is how do I wire those up with watsons kit? the kit itself does not account for a voltage regulator or the mystery component |
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SirCyber Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2011 Posts: 28 Location: WA
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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building it mostly as a dd but also for kicks and the learning. I'm not ready for retirement lol, for 15 more years for that. I'm also building it as a stock drag car. well, stock in as much as the pancake 4 and not modifying the body. as much as I can keep original style, I will. |
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Cadaver Samba Member

Joined: April 24, 2012 Posts: 2338
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:28 am Post subject: |
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ssdd
i love the spiders web.
i bet the spider is the cause !!!
what is purpose of car
1: dd
2; offroad only.
3: for kicks.
4: learning experience.
5: bored. (retired)
im under 3-5 category
here is/ was my plan
structural , repairs.
brakes.
wheel bearings and suspension repairs. (stops , rolls and leans and bounces safely)
engine. +(flush and lube tranny)
electrics all fixed. |
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SirCyber Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2011 Posts: 28 Location: WA
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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ok so recently got the throttle cable connected, turns out the tube out the back of the doghouse *towards the front of the vehicle* was bent upward into the firewall... through painstaking care *and lots of frustration* I managed to bend it down enough, got it through the doghouse, and seated properly. I know this is moving slowly, but with family, work, my first project *jeep cherokee* and now a third project *aquarius 23 sailboat* and most time consuming of all, work, time has been precious. my goal is july to have her up and running.
what is a good method of securing the coil and maybe a good location for it? |
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SirCyber Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2011 Posts: 28 Location: WA
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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thanks gore, I plan on it.
Ok, question. I am anxious to get the bug started, but I don't have an ignition switch. so I was going to connect the terminals on the starter solonoid but I just found out that I connected the terminals on the voltage regulator inside the bug. would this have damaged anything? I'm a little scared now. so I don't know what the starter solonoid looks liike. I know that I didn't get any reaction out of the engine at all. can I start the bug without the ignition the way that I had thought? also, very important question. the ground strap from the transmission is disconnected. I don't know where the other end is supposed to connect
Transmission > strap > ????
There are also several connections on the coil that don't have connections going to them. I have a positive and a negative, from the wiring harness, but that's the only ones connected to the coil. there's a wire clipped out of the wiring harness, I don't know what it was, where it went to, or color.
Nutshell with this post update... getting a wiring harness from http://www.watsons-streetworks.com/vw.beetle.wiring.html . I'm just wanting to hear the engine run right now. what's the minimum I need to get that satisfaction? |
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gore666 Samba Member
Joined: September 14, 2010 Posts: 533 Location: casper wyoming
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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hahaha love the motor i would leave the paint as is |
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SirCyber Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2011 Posts: 28 Location: WA
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:21 am Post subject: |
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all those are still around, good to see them written down though, I keep forgetting about strictly speed. due to my problems, if I can't get my engine started today, I'm going to be going over to vintage vee dub next week sometime and see what they say |
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vw_hank Samba Member

Joined: February 07, 2001 Posts: 5371 Location: Everett WA
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 5:05 am Post subject: |
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bremerton |
I think you told me that before..
If you were A little closer Id offer to come over and give you A hand fingering out some of the problems, but that's A good 1hr drive(speeding) and A toll, or A 30min drive(speeding) and A 30min ferry ride there is A good little VW shop over there! if your looking for parts.
"vintage vee dub..still there...360-479-2457
located on hwy3 in Gorst between Port Orchard and Bremerton
they do all forms of aircooled repair/resto"
"Strictly Speed is a engine tranny builder..."bench work" only, specializing in hi-po go fast stuff... Vintage Vee Dub is a general repair shop that also does resto and performance engine stuff....both are highly recommended!!"
"Helmut's German Auto in Bremerton"
I haven't been over that way in A long time so I dont know if thy are all still around or not? _________________ 1302s sunroof..
1600cc motor. Glenn ring 010. full toplineparts.com suspension. factory front disk brakes. Tram type-3 rear brakes. Hurst shifter. empi-8's. low-back's. tons of mods! |
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SirCyber Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2011 Posts: 28 Location: WA
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 4:40 am Post subject: |
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vw_hank Samba Member

Joined: February 07, 2001 Posts: 5371 Location: Everett WA
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:30 am Post subject: |
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SirCyber,, were in Wa. are you??
never know when I might need parts just kiding  _________________ 1302s sunroof..
1600cc motor. Glenn ring 010. full toplineparts.com suspension. factory front disk brakes. Tram type-3 rear brakes. Hurst shifter. empi-8's. low-back's. tons of mods! |
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vw_hank Samba Member

Joined: February 07, 2001 Posts: 5371 Location: Everett WA
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:27 am Post subject: |
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Joel wrote: |
vw_hank wrote: |
Joel wrote: |
vw_hank wrote: |
The linkage for you carbs looks like maby old type-3 linkage? |
They're Weber ICTs with what looks like a Scat Swivel linkage.
Just uses a standard solex barrel nut to clamp the throttle cable to it. |
the problem he is having is that the cable isn't reaching the linkage. |
What cable?
As Mrbigmanx pointed out it doesn't even have a cable, or if it does it's snapped or pulled through the back.
If it doesn't reach that linkage, it's not gonna reach a stock carb either. |
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also, have an interesting problem. the throttle cable seems to be for a single carburator, but mine is a dual. the throttle will not reach the link between the two carbs, nor do I know if I need additional parts *something to fit the connection to*. One more question... |
I was just going off that.
didn't pay the pic much attention, fingered he puled the cable out to see why it was short or something but now that I read his next post and I see he was trying to run it around the fan shroud  _________________ 1302s sunroof..
1600cc motor. Glenn ring 010. full toplineparts.com suspension. factory front disk brakes. Tram type-3 rear brakes. Hurst shifter. empi-8's. low-back's. tons of mods! |
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SirCyber Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2011 Posts: 28 Location: WA
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 2:12 am Post subject: |
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ok I thought maybe it went through the fan shroud, then thought that it couldn't possibly go there. then I looked up the fan design, and shroud... thanks for the help, I will see what I can tomorrow, I'm going to try one more time to get the bug running, going to make sure that the engine is grounded, then give it one more go. have some guys that are coming over to help me, both avid bug guys I trust. hopefully with the three of us I can hear it running. any way to tell if this is an upgraded motor or a stock 1600cc? |
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Joel Samba Member

Joined: September 04, 2006 Posts: 11099 Location: NSW Australia
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:42 am Post subject: |
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vw_hank wrote: |
Joel wrote: |
vw_hank wrote: |
The linkage for you carbs looks like maby old type-3 linkage? |
They're Weber ICTs with what looks like a Scat Swivel linkage.
Just uses a standard solex barrel nut to clamp the throttle cable to it. |
the problem he is having is that the cable isn't reaching the linkage. |
What cable?
As Mrbigmanx pointed out it doesn't even have a cable, or if it does it's snapped or pulled through the back.
If it doesn't reach that linkage, it's not gonna reach a stock carb either. _________________ Quick little bug, you got a Porsche motor in that?
1974 Germanlook 1303 2.5 Suba-Beetle |
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vw_hank Samba Member

Joined: February 07, 2001 Posts: 5371 Location: Everett WA
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:23 am Post subject: |
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Joel wrote: |
vw_hank wrote: |
The linkage for you carbs looks like maby old type-3 linkage? |
They're Weber ICTs with what looks like a Scat Swivel linkage.
Just uses a standard solex barrel nut to clamp the throttle cable to it. |
the problem he is having is that the cable isn't reaching the linkage. _________________ 1302s sunroof..
1600cc motor. Glenn ring 010. full toplineparts.com suspension. factory front disk brakes. Tram type-3 rear brakes. Hurst shifter. empi-8's. low-back's. tons of mods! |
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mrbigmax Samba Member
Joined: September 10, 2011 Posts: 1289 Location: Modesto, CA
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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:14 am Post subject: |
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In your 2nd photo of the engine, I see the tube in the fan shroud for the throttle cable but no cable. Get a throttle cable and like others have suggested, the barrel nut and you should have it hooked up in no time. The cable feeds through the back of the fan shroud and comes out here at the yellow arrow.
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Joel Samba Member

Joined: September 04, 2006 Posts: 11099 Location: NSW Australia
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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vw_hank wrote: |
The linkage for you carbs looks like maby old type-3 linkage? |
They're Weber ICTs with what looks like a Scat Swivel linkage.
Just uses a standard solex barrel nut to clamp the throttle cable to it. _________________ Quick little bug, you got a Porsche motor in that?
1974 Germanlook 1303 2.5 Suba-Beetle |
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vw_hank Samba Member

Joined: February 07, 2001 Posts: 5371 Location: Everett WA
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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http://vintagebus.com/wiring/
Go there and look over the wiring diagrams!! your cars A 1971 1302 might be some help!! _________________ 1302s sunroof..
1600cc motor. Glenn ring 010. full toplineparts.com suspension. factory front disk brakes. Tram type-3 rear brakes. Hurst shifter. empi-8's. low-back's. tons of mods! |
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SirCyber Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2011 Posts: 28 Location: WA
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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well looks like I'm at a standstill until I can afford a new wiring harness. I currently don't have an ignition switch, and well, I wanted to try to start the bug today. so connected a battery and connected what I could tell of the wires, and only got the wires REALLY hot when I connected a screwdriver between the negative and positive side of the starter solonoid. I may not have wired it correctly, but regardless, I need a new wiring harness anyways. so now gotta wait for the funds for that. any advice before I do this would be helpful, but I'm fairly certain that's what's needed right now |
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vw_hank Samba Member

Joined: February 07, 2001 Posts: 5371 Location: Everett WA
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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and just A side note,, clean off that motor before you start working on it! and well your shopping you need A rear motor tin, and some heater hose before you start driving it around.. _________________ 1302s sunroof..
1600cc motor. Glenn ring 010. full toplineparts.com suspension. factory front disk brakes. Tram type-3 rear brakes. Hurst shifter. empi-8's. low-back's. tons of mods! |
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vw_hank Samba Member

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