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Ahwahnee Samba Member

Joined: June 05, 2010 Posts: 10305 Location: Mt Lemmon, AZ
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| ...I installed the distributor drive shaft about 90d clockwise past where it "should" be. I'm deciding to leave it that way... |
Some day, some future owner will think of you.
What they will think I can only imagine. |
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the man with the van Samba Member
Joined: August 09, 2012 Posts: 31 Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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I wasn't able to start the van during my last trip due to a missing throttle cable pin and a mangled hall sender plug. I ordered the replacement plug from van-cafe and should get my hands on a spare pin thanks to a fellow samba member and Albuquerque local. I'll have it running on my next trip at the end of the month and see if my engine was spared when it overheated.
Also, after adjusting my valves, I am now certain that I installed the distributor drive shaft about 90d clockwise past where it "should" be. I'm deciding to leave it that way and should be alright as long as the firing order, valve adjustments and timing are all on point. All of my spark plug wires will just appear to be rotated one spot CW. |
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DwarfVader Samba Member

Joined: July 28, 2015 Posts: 646 Location: Missoula, MT
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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holy crap!
Talk about a thread returning from the dead.
I enjoyed reading it till this last page not once looking at the dates in the thread... and at the very end the most recent post from the OP bringing it back to life.
Thread watched!  _________________ - oderint dum metuant -
I'll find my van someday, or it will find me. |
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the man with the van Samba Member
Joined: August 09, 2012 Posts: 31 Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:07 am Post subject: |
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Well guys, I'm sorry to have left everybody hanging for all this time, but there was no happy ending that y'all might have been hoping for. The engine did run well for a short period of time but I soon lost a belt on a short stretch of highway where I in no way could pull over. In just the 1/2 mile it took from when I noticed the temperature alert to when I could pull over, the engine overheated enough blow the head gaskets. (I used to be waay too considerate. If this ever happens again I'll block an entire freeway for all I care). FYI, if you see the battery warning light come on, it might mean there's something up with the alternator which might mean the belt fell off which is the same belt that runs the water pump.
I was in a huge rush to get it running again and had read somewhere that you can reuse the copper head gaskets so I did another head job the next day which failed miserably.
At this point I gave up and took out a loan to buy a lame truck and pretty much let the Vanagon rot for the last 3 years.
Well said truck was recently totaled and fortunately I was paid a fair amount for it. In a few weeks, I'm flying back to Albuquerque to give the van another go!
I'll provide a more technical update soon... |
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BillWYellowstone Samba Member

Joined: July 16, 2011 Posts: 767 Location: Yellowstone NP
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Dang! Last chapter missing. I think after readin all the pages with the tools, the confusion, when it is time I am pulling the engine, strapping to a pallet and sending it out to be done. _________________ Live Fulltime in motorhome
Have 86 Westy Camper 2.1 rebuilt
Work in Yellowstone NP year round. |
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BetaVan Samba Member
Joined: September 14, 2011 Posts: 209 Location: Redwood City, CA
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 10:34 am Post subject: |
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I hate shaggy dogs! _________________ 84 Westfalia
Vanistan 2.2 Powerplant
WBXhaust + External Oilcooler |
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61Scout Samba Member

Joined: November 06, 2011 Posts: 1297 Location: Shoreline/Yakima WA
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BetaVan Samba Member
Joined: September 14, 2011 Posts: 209 Location: Redwood City, CA
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Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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How are things going after all this time? _________________ 84 Westfalia
Vanistan 2.2 Powerplant
WBXhaust + External Oilcooler |
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tilstad Samba Member
Joined: December 15, 2010 Posts: 175 Location: Texas
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member

Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 7300 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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charlesnj Samba Member
Joined: May 07, 2006 Posts: 35 Location: Galloway,Nj,USA
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:58 pm Post subject: How did your rebuild turn out ? |
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| Hello, thinking of trying to rebuild my 2.1 in my 86 syncro. How did yours turn out ? Thanks Charlie |
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the man with the van Samba Member
Joined: August 09, 2012 Posts: 31 Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| The engine is back in and I just got done changing the fuel lines. The wiring in the engine compartment was a nightmare, I've spent two days replacing wires that were spliced 2-3 times just within a couple of feet. Everything is finished except I completely obliterated the quick connect to the middle green wire for the distributer while trying to remove the wire. Once that's fixed tomorrow I can fill it up with all the fluids and see if it starts! |
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the man with the van Samba Member
Joined: August 09, 2012 Posts: 31 Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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At first I thought the last guy who changed this knew what he was doing but sure enough there were gaskets on both sides under the plethora of RTV
I didn't have feeler gauges but I placed a magnetic straight edge over the gears and measured the play by pushing the gears down and letting the magnet pull them back up. I had 0.0035” so I skipped the gaskets, just the right stuff.
Replacing water pump studs with bolts: 8x35mm, 1.25 thread, 13mm wrench
Set up to put the heads on. Sealing surface on heads lightly sanded
I also gave the water jacket seals a quick buzz to form a good seal
Engine strapped down. I put a wrench on the pulley bolt to hold the crankshaft still while I torqued the flywheel down.
Crankshaft end play is very high. I had to order two .38mm shims to get it down to .10mm.
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the man with the van Samba Member
Joined: August 09, 2012 Posts: 31 Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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So what size main bearings did you end up going with?
-Rob |
Standard sized bearings. I ended up just using my calipers to measure my crank. If you go to a machine shop for anything, I would recommend you also just have them measure your crank so you don't have to buy a micrometer. I took my crank in to have them pull the gears pulled off. They charged me for 15 minutes so I wish I had a short list of misc requests to get my money's worth. |
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chazz79 Samba Member

Joined: August 15, 2008 Posts: 2268 Location: ohio
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, I just set the gear on there until it gets nice and toasty, and it slides right into place. No fuss no muss. |
Nice! That's easy |
I bought a toaster oven a few years back for the same thing. My wife has found a few pinions sitting in her freezer for the same purposes. _________________ One day as a lion, or a lifetime as lamb
The green monster in bits and peices: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=332556&highlight=green+monster |
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Mark Samba Member

Joined: January 20, 2003 Posts: 1523 Location: Victoria, BC Canada
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, I just set the gear on there until it gets nice and toasty, and it slides right into place. No fuss no muss. |
Excellent, I use a small toaster oven normally used for for smaller powder coating jobs. No oil to interfere or create an extra burning hazard. |
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Robw_z Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2007 Posts: 997
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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So what size main bearings did you end up going with?
-Rob |
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the man with the van Samba Member
Joined: August 09, 2012 Posts: 31 Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, I just set the gear on there until it gets nice and toasty, and it slides right into place. No fuss no muss. |
Nice! That's easy |
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member

Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12177 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I just set the gear on there until it gets nice and toasty, and it slides right into place. No fuss no muss. _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH
'01 Weekender --> full camper
NEAT, no ICE. |
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the man with the van Samba Member
Joined: August 09, 2012 Posts: 31 Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| I use an old Krupps coffeemaker hotplate for that same task ^ |
Just dry!? Or with oil? |
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