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busdaddy Samba Member

Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 52927 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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obieoberstar Samba Member

Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 1171 Location: Tucson
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Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.type2.com/dakhlia/wiring_diagrams.html
Here are some wiring diagrams. Not sure if you have seen them. It looks like the 'K' wire is used. I don't see a '31' on there. Terminal 31 is the ground circuit on German cars. Can you tell by looking at the terminal if there is any wear or signs of it not being used? |
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consvws  Samba Member

Joined: April 07, 2009 Posts: 1007 Location: Roseburg, OR
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Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:18 pm Post subject: Re: GAS HEATER!!!! |
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tootype2crazy wrote: |
consvws wrote: |
Got the gas heater laying here. The fuel pump spits gas, i've got a bunch of wires & i was hoping to make a quick wiring harness so i can make it run. Do i need to remove the switch from the dash & all the wiring loom to hook this up proper, or does anyone have a simpler way to bench test them? I found some black & white wiring diagrams that are pretty hard to figure out. |
In order to run it on the bench you really need to pull out the wiring harness. There is a safety switch and a triple relay under the dash and the harness plugs into them. Also 2 wires go to #9 and #10 in the fuse box and 1 wire goes to the switch on the heater lever that turns on the fan. If you pull off those wires and pull out the relay and the safety switch the harness is all self contained and is fairly easy to get out of the bus. I have taken 4 of them out in about 1 hour at a junkyard. It's just held on with zip ties under the bus. Don't try wiring it up yourself, that's not really a good idea. Also having the wiring harness out makes it easy to inspect the wires and see if any are shorting (yes I have had them not run because of that). PM me if you need any help, I have rebuilt a few of these and their smaller brother the BA4. |
Well, i pulled the harness out along with all the relays & switches. Came out a lot easier then i would have thought. The wiring all seems to be in great shape. Now i'm wondering a few things about what kind of ground wires to run & where? Most of it is all hooked up ready to run now.
This part of the switch only had 1 wire going to it, and it was brown (ground). Been trying to look at some diagrams to find out if the wire was going to the 'K' or the '31' on this switch
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tootype2crazy Samba Member

Joined: October 08, 2007 Posts: 1276 Location: St. Louis Missouri
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Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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Another thing I noticed: is your intake hose cracked in the picture below?
If it is replace it. The intake should be very far away from the heater, otherwise drafts could potentially cause the heater to overheat and catch fire. _________________ air-cooled or nothing for me
1978 Sunroof Deluxe Bus (daily driver)
1978 Transporter (mom's, making into a camper)
1970 Single Cab 2.1 turbo/EFI 6 Rib, 78 front beam, vanagon backing plates on rear (project)
2001 GTI VR6 (wife's) |
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ejon Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2012 Posts: 128 Location: oregon
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Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Thats funny , because when he wrote the oregon thing,
first thing that hit was, He should see the Coos bay cars.. LOLOL..
Coos bay to bandon coastal cancer central
The northern mid west people get hit the hardest.. |
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1967250s Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2007 Posts: 2137
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Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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yep, my Bay came from Coos Bay. OR and is eaten up with rust. Nthing worse than salt air and sand in your chassis. |
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tootype2crazy Samba Member

Joined: October 08, 2007 Posts: 1276 Location: St. Louis Missouri
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Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:12 pm Post subject: Re: GAS HEATER!!!! |
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consvws wrote: |
Got the gas heater laying here. The fuel pump spits gas, i've got a bunch of wires & i was hoping to make a quick wiring harness so i can make it run. Do i need to remove the switch from the dash & all the wiring loom to hook this up proper, or does anyone have a simpler way to bench test them? I found some black & white wiring diagrams that are pretty hard to figure out. |
In order to run it on the bench you really need to pull out the wiring harness. There is a safety switch and a triple relay under the dash and the harness plugs into them. Also 2 wires go to #9 and #10 in the fuse box and 1 wire goes to the switch on the heater lever that turns on the fan. If you pull off those wires and pull out the relay and the safety switch the harness is all self contained and is fairly easy to get out of the bus. I have taken 4 of them out in about 1 hour at a junkyard. It's just held on with zip ties under the bus. Don't try wiring it up yourself, that's not really a good idea. Also having the wiring harness out makes it easy to inspect the wires and see if any are shorting (yes I have had them not run because of that). PM me if you need any help, I have rebuilt a few of these and their smaller brother the BA4. _________________ air-cooled or nothing for me
1978 Sunroof Deluxe Bus (daily driver)
1978 Transporter (mom's, making into a camper)
1970 Single Cab 2.1 turbo/EFI 6 Rib, 78 front beam, vanagon backing plates on rear (project)
2001 GTI VR6 (wife's) |
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ejon Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2012 Posts: 128 Location: oregon
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Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Did you forget where oregon is ? like west coast.
That big ol ocean out here is not fresh water. What we don't have is salted hyways. it freeze's or snows we're just SOL. The plus here is the rusted cars of any brand, come off the coast. There's a large mountain range within a mile of the ocean, which blocks the salt air.
so 10 miles inland and your out of the cancer zone.. but the rain .. these buses here just like you, when they sit the windshield, floors rain gutters so on get rusted out just like any where else |
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1979westie Samba Member

Joined: January 08, 2004 Posts: 1093 Location: Flying this P-27 bomber
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Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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I love you guys out in Oregon....you just happen across an old bus that looks like it has been in a ditch for 20 years, pull it out and with some elbow grease find the original paint under the wheel arches to be far better than my bus has ever looked. You have no idea (or maybe you do) what it is like to live on the east coast where rust eats these things alive.
Will someone please keep an eye out for me for a 78-79 deluxe westy out there? It can be ratty, no engine, no trans, no interior...just a clean, rust free body and beam. I'll toss in a finders fee too.
Great bus and good luck! _________________ Your car may do 0-60 in under 5 seconds, but can it sleep 4 and cook a meal?
1979 Deluxe Campmobile (quickly rusting away)
33K miles when bought, now at 61K
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consvws  Samba Member

Joined: April 07, 2009 Posts: 1007 Location: Roseburg, OR
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Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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front pedal cluster pan back on, some more cleaning the under chassis, and the scrubbed the floors down
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consvws  Samba Member

Joined: April 07, 2009 Posts: 1007 Location: Roseburg, OR
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:45 pm Post subject: GAS HEATER!!!! |
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Got the gas heater laying here. The fuel pump spits gas, i've got a bunch of wires & i was hoping to make a quick wiring harness so i can make it run. Do i need to remove the switch from the dash & all the wiring loom to hook this up proper, or does anyone have a simpler way to bench test them? I found some black & white wiring diagrams that are pretty hard to figure out.
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consvws  Samba Member

Joined: April 07, 2009 Posts: 1007 Location: Roseburg, OR
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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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Pulled the gas heater, and i'm going to see if i can fire it up this week.
cool old eberspacher fuel pump
here is the ignition coil
and here is where fuel meets up with spark & makes fire hopefully
I also gutted the bus back out to clean it up some more
sanded down the cb steps a little & painted them with some Rustoleum green paint i had laying around
Then i hammered out a the little dent in the side from under the back seat & tatted it up with some of that paint too. Not a perfect match but it'll work until i get some paint mixed up if i ever fix the nose up all nice.
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consvws  Samba Member

Joined: April 07, 2009 Posts: 1007 Location: Roseburg, OR
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Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Decided to replace all these crispy old vacuum lines & in the process found a big leak in the tube going to the aux. air valve. The tube was like what i use on my fish pond pump & was barely zip tied on there.
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consvws  Samba Member

Joined: April 07, 2009 Posts: 1007 Location: Roseburg, OR
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Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, the bus is coming right along. My friend gets all the credit for the pans, he paints for a living & i'm known to leave runs in my paint I think he used epoxy primer & clear. They do look pretty sweet though huh!
As for the BA6 i haven't done much. I pulled off the exhaust pipe from it & a buncha rust came out. Also found a tear in the rubber boot thingy right where the wires are sticking out of it. You can see in the right side of this pic
I think i'm going to just pop the whole thing out of there and try to make it run on the bench. |
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eche_bus Samba Member
Joined: October 07, 2007 Posts: 1318
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Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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Wow This is really coming along nicely! Great work! What did you use for paint on those pans? |
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notchboy Samba Member

Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22663 Location: Escondido CA
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Zhaph Samba Member

Joined: September 25, 2012 Posts: 36 Location: When you're talking home, you mean the Old Dominion!
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Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Just checked out this thread for the first time today; awesome bus and great pictures! Looks like your restoration is going really well; your attention to detail while cleaning and painting is admirable. Keep on keeping on, and nice work!  _________________ 1974 Westy - REBUS
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consvws  Samba Member

Joined: April 07, 2009 Posts: 1007 Location: Roseburg, OR
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Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:56 pm Post subject: BA6 Belly Pan |
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belly pans all sandblasted & painted
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consvws  Samba Member

Joined: April 07, 2009 Posts: 1007 Location: Roseburg, OR
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Tore the engine down a bit so i could replace the oil cooler seals & weld up the exhaust pipes (hacked out the CAT). I ended up putting it all back together minus the AC for now, but she sounds much better & doesn't leak oil anymore
and while i was at it, replaced the old petrified dipstick boot with a new one
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consvws  Samba Member

Joined: April 07, 2009 Posts: 1007 Location: Roseburg, OR
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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Outlaw70 wrote: |
That thing is looking good man! ill have to drive up and check it out.. |
Yeah, cruise up & check her out anytime. |
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