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Crooked Designer Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:36 am Post subject: Re: What TIRES fit? The ultimate tire thread! |
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Probably not a bad idea to measure hub center to fender. Will try to do that this weekend.
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Crooked Designer wrote: |
Very specific question. Anyone running 215/70/16 on a westy at stock height? I have zero lift springs from GoWesty and some spacers in the back to keep it level, but otherwise, pretty stock height from the road. I'd love to get 215/70 vs 215/65 for a few reasons. One thing I don't want is for them to rub. Anyone have experience with this? I'm looking at General Grabbers, but also a few other options. These will be on 16" CLKs with spacers. But really want some real world feedback on if the 215/70/16s rub at all. Again, full westy camper (85 if that matters) and stock height springs. |
I'm currently at 17" hub center to wheel arch lip, both front and rear, loaded down and sitting in the garage. I think this is much more comparable than suggesting "stock height". My suspension is not stock as I have 8-10 year old Moog 5660 springs up front and Monroe Sensa-Trac 58595 load assist shocks on the rear.
My wheels are the alloys GoWesty sold years back (did they quit selling them?) that are 7.5"x16" ET23. Current tires are 215/65-16. I started with 225/60-16 and they did rub the center front fender arch when turning and compressing the spring. Think turning in a steep driveway apron a little too fast. That was with the original springs. I changed tire size at the same time I installed the Moog springs. The current set up has never caused an issue for well over 10 years.
Maybe see if someone would mount up a 215/70-16 tire on the front for you and take a short test drive with intentions of turning up an incline just to test. |
_________________ '85 Westy full camper, Subaru 2.5L, 5 speed SubiGears + 5speedbus shifter kit |
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riceye Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 4:22 pm Post subject: Re: What TIRES fit? The ultimate tire thread! |
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Crooked Designer wrote: |
Very specific question. Anyone running 215/70/16 on a westy at stock height? I have zero lift springs from GoWesty and some spacers in the back to keep it level, but otherwise, pretty stock height from the road. I'd love to get 215/70 vs 215/65 for a few reasons. One thing I don't want is for them to rub. Anyone have experience with this? I'm looking at General Grabbers, but also a few other options. These will be on 16" CLKs with spacers. But really want some real world feedback on if the 215/70/16s rub at all. Again, full westy camper (85 if that matters) and stock height springs. |
I'm currently at 17" hub center to wheel arch lip, both front and rear, loaded down and sitting in the garage. I think this is much more comparable than suggesting "stock height". My suspension is not stock as I have 8-10 year old Moog 5660 springs up front and Monroe Sensa-Trac 58595 load assist shocks on the rear.
My wheels are the alloys GoWesty sold years back (did they quit selling them?) that are 7.5"x16" ET23. Current tires are 215/65-16. I started with 225/60-16 and they did rub the center front fender arch when turning and compressing the spring. Think turning in a steep driveway apron a little too fast. That was with the original springs. I changed tire size at the same time I installed the Moog springs. The current set up has never caused an issue for well over 10 years.
Maybe see if someone would mount up a 215/70-16 tire on the front for you and take a short test drive with intentions of turning up an incline just to test. _________________ '87 Westy Weekender - daily driver on salt-free roads
There's gonna be some changes made.
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Crooked Designer Samba Member

Joined: March 22, 2018 Posts: 573 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:50 am Post subject: Re: What TIRES fit? The ultimate tire thread! |
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Very specific question. Anyone running 215/70/16 on a westy at stock height? I have zero lift springs from GoWesty and some spacers in the back to keep it level, but otherwise, pretty stock height from the road. I'd love to get 215/70 vs 215/65 for a few reasons. One thing I don't want is for them to rub. Anyone have experience with this? I'm looking at General Grabbers, but also a few other options. These will be on 16" CLKs with spacers. But really want some real world feedback on if the 215/70/16s rub at all. Again, full westy camper (85 if that matters) and stock height springs. _________________ '85 Westy full camper, Subaru 2.5L, 5 speed SubiGears + 5speedbus shifter kit |
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SnowDaySyncro Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: What TIRES fit? The ultimate tire thread! |
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I have 225/75R16XL Hankook Dynapro AT2 Xtremes on my Syncro.
While I am planning on getting snow tires for it, their impressive performance on snow and ice thus far this winter have me comfortable enough to postpone that purchase until next winter (there has also been minimal snow in southern New England this year and I haven't traveled much.
All that said, when I do get a set of snow tires, I'm planning on getting the Hankook Winter i*pike X. They are available studded, but I won't opt for studs. They weigh 30 pounds per tire with a 104 load index versus 36 per tire/112 load for the LT225/75R16 Blizzak. They're also less expensive.
Based on my excellent experience thus far with the Dynapros, and some feedback from a Syncro owner in New York state with a fresh set of the i*pikes (his are studded) this winter, I'm feeling pretty confident that they will be a good choice. |
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Chris-a Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: What TIRES fit? The ultimate tire thread! |
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We're rocking some 225/75r16 Goodyear Wranglers on our 87 lifted Westy Syncro. They work real well on our deep snow covered dirt road(forest service) to get up to our house, however they are bit scary on the very curvy state highway at 35+ mph when there is basically sheet ice covering the road(which can be the normal this time of the year).
I ran some Bridgestone Blizzaks on my little Prius for years living in NW Montana and that was probably the most confident vehicle I ever drove on the interstates covered with frozen surface for months on end.
So that experience has me thinking of adding those to the Vanagon. They make them in a lt225/75r16.
Anyone ran those on their van?
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thejameshansen Samba Member
Joined: January 05, 2017 Posts: 12 Location: Bellingham, WA
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: What TIRES fit? The ultimate tire thread! |
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Cross-posting from the GoWesty alloy wheel replica thread.
These are 16x7.5-inch wheels with 215/60R16 Vredestein Quatrac tires. XL 99 load rating. Everything fits nicely, except the sliding door rubs the right-rear tire a decent bit. I can open the door, but I'm worried a zealous passenger could damage the sidewall.
Not many miles yet, but so far, I'm loving these tires. _________________ 1990 Vanagon GL passenger van, 2wd, 2.1l, auto |
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Dono Be Samba Member

Joined: November 26, 2023 Posts: 39 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: What TIRES fit? The ultimate tire thread! |
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Crooked Designer wrote: |
Dono Be wrote: |
Here is a before and after pic... side by side of my new 215/65/16 on the 16"x7.5" Mercedes rims
Thanks for all the info on here.
Dono |
2 questions.. 1. Stock height / full westy? 2. Any rubbing on front wheel at full turn? I'm looking to go from 15's to 16's and am trying to figure out tire size and this is my lead option, so would be very helpful to hear your experience so far.
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Hey...yes just a bit of a rib when the van has a passenger up front and braking and approaching a driveway during the turn. No other problems but I have the spacers for this spring revamp.
Old Stock springs and sits at 27" (was 25" with 195/70/14) _________________ Working on a 1988 T25 Vanagon Westfalia...Loved and lost A 1966 VW Sundial Camper, A 1966 Transporter, and Three 1967 VW Beetles. |
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Corwyn  Samba Member

Joined: December 29, 2009 Posts: 2419 Location: Olympia, Washington
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Corwyn  Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2024 9:57 am Post subject: Re: What TIRES fit? The ultimate tire thread! |
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Ride-Fly wrote: |
I love the Vancos on my Wolfie, but they’re being discontinued  |
I don't know where that rumor came from, because my Continental dealership says it's not true. The Vanco is one of their best-selling tires. I just installed four new ones 195/70 15 . . . _________________ '90 White Westy ("White Lightning")
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tdivan82  Samba Member
Joined: September 17, 2023 Posts: 260 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: What TIRES fit? The ultimate tire thread! |
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Another data point for the thread. Yoko Geolandar A/T in 215/70 R16 installed on Mobelwagen Interceptor 512. My goal was the largest practical diameter with no rubbing, and no major modifications needed. I am running Schwenk Westy springs, which supposedly give a sub-1" lift.
Overall tire diameter is 27.9 inches. Did some parking lot lock-to-lock maneuvers and no rubbing. Went over some large speed bumps at various speeds and tires did not touch the wheel arches. Seems like 27.9" works nicely with zero rubbing observed.
I like that the Interceptor wheels accept the OEM chrome hub caps. I do wish they came in a 6.5" width though instead of 7.5". A 6.5 inch wheel would be better suited to the 215 tire section width.
_________________ - George
'82 Westy TDI (ahu)
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ragnarhairybreeks Samba Member

Joined: October 26, 2009 Posts: 1936 Location: Sidney B.C. Canada
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Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2024 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: What TIRES fit? The ultimate tire thread! |
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Hi,
Just replaced my yoko geolander GO15 last week. Those tires have been good to me, no complaints. I wore them out. Replacements are Kumho road venture AT52. Sort of newish model. Supposedly better wear characteristics than the AT51.
Why I chose them … they have a higher load rating than the geolanders. And the price was better.
I mounted and balanced last Friday. So not much to say about them except they handled heavy rain and hwy just fine. In the pics there’s one with a representative reading on the machine before weights added.
_________________ '86 7 passenger syncro, converted to westy pop top, project still in progress
'82 westy, diesel converted to gas in '94, now gone...
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eeebee Samba Member

Joined: July 17, 2009 Posts: 440 Location: Tujunga
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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 2:25 pm Post subject: Re: What TIRES fit? The ultimate tire thread! |
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eeebee wrote: |
16 in carrot rims with 215 x 55 x16 Michelin crossclimate 2 tires
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The follow-up, I've had these on for almost 6 months and they've worked out great. They're actually identical diameter to the original alloy wheels. They are great all-around tire. _________________ Eric
1987 Vanagon Wolfsburg Special Edition
GoWesty 2.3
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Crankey Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 11:59 am Post subject: Re: What TIRES fit? The ultimate tire thread! |
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Currently I've built these wheels to 8" front and 9" rear.
I'm looking for tires.
I see Tristar Eric on his race van has 215/50/17 on 7.5 front wheels.
I'm looking at 275/40/17 for the 9" rear wheels.
Tire calculator says the diameters would be
25.46 tall front
25.65 tall rear.
This is about as close to a match i have found so far. Rear may require a spacer or that I grind off some of the pinch weld of the trailing arm and weld it back up with flat plate. Spacer means a slight poke out of the wheel arch. Not a deal breaker....I have no fender on one side at the moment and ...well I could do cosmetic rebuild surgery on the non damaged side and just rebuild the damaged side a bit wider...or just let the tire poke out .25-.50 of an inch.
If I go to 225/50 front i can't find a matching hight rear, or a match I feel is acceptable.
Opinions ? |
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Ride-Fly Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:26 pm Post subject: Re: What TIRES fit? The ultimate tire thread! |
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kamzcab86 wrote: |
Ride-Fly wrote: |
My Westy is in need of new shoes…. considering 3 options. Thunderer Ranger R402
Next are the Firestone Transforce
Continental Vanco 4 |
Out of that list, the Vanco 4. Although, I'm biased because my Westy sported those for about 6 years. Replaced them with Cooper Discoverers; only reasons for that are 1) Discount had to special order the Vanco 4s, while the Coopers were immediately available; 2) Coopers were slightly less $ and I needed 5, thus saved a fair bit of coin.
The Vanco 4 is a great tire. |
I love the Vancos on my Wolfie, but they’re being discontinued
Otherwise, I’d have gone with them again. I’m thinking I’m going to have go with the CrossClimates. Great tires too. But muy espensive 😎 _________________ 1987 Westy, Dove Blue
1987 Wolfsburg Tintop, Vesuvius Grey (SFO car)
1977 Toyota FJ40, Freeborn Red
2018 Ford F-350 Platinum, Ruby Red Metallic
2017 Mercedes GLE350, Polar White
2013 Mercedes G550, black w/ 4” Fox suspension
2008 Mercede GL550 (Boulder car) |
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator

Joined: July 26, 2008 Posts: 8445 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: What TIRES fit? The ultimate tire thread! |
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Ride-Fly wrote: |
My Westy is in need of new shoes…. considering 3 options. Thunderer Ranger R402
Next are the Firestone Transforce
Continental Vanco 4 |
Out of that list, the Vanco 4. Although, I'm biased because my Westy sported those for about 6 years. Replaced them with Cooper Discoverers; only reasons for that are 1) Discount had to special order the Vanco 4s, while the Coopers were immediately available; 2) Coopers were slightly less $ and I needed 5, thus saved a fair bit of coin.
The Vanco 4 is a great tire. _________________ ~Kamz
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Ride-Fly Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:45 am Post subject: Re: What TIRES fit? The ultimate tire thread! |
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My Westy is in need of new shoes….considering 3 options. Currently have Nokian Hakkapelita C that are 10 years old with about 30k. Starting to show sidewall cracks and delamination.
First are the Thunderer Ranger R402 commercial van tires. Anyone have any experience with Thunderer tires? They have a variety of sizes and all with excellent load ratings. I just never heard of them. Are they on par with Milestar and Generals? Or an upgrade like Firestone and Goodyear?
Next are the Firestone Transforce. Solid reputable company. Haven’t read about too many folks here running them.
I had Michelin CrossClimates on my Wolfie but replaced them with the Continental Vanco 4Seasons when Michelin recalled their previous version due to it not meeting the Snowflake rating. I’m still considering these as they’re probably the top of the line tires you can buy.
Any inputs appreciated. _________________ 1987 Westy, Dove Blue
1987 Wolfsburg Tintop, Vesuvius Grey (SFO car)
1977 Toyota FJ40, Freeborn Red
2018 Ford F-350 Platinum, Ruby Red Metallic
2017 Mercedes GLE350, Polar White
2013 Mercedes G550, black w/ 4” Fox suspension
2008 Mercede GL550 (Boulder car) |
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supduck Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: What TIRES fit? The ultimate tire thread! |
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Anyone running Pirelli Scorpion Verde A/S 215/65R16 XL 102H 50 PSI 27" |
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1988M5 Samba Member

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Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: What TIRES fit? The ultimate tire thread! |
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eeebee wrote: |
16 in carrot rims with 215 x 55 x16 Michelin crossclimate 2 tires
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How easy is it to find your van in a parking lot? _________________ 1991 tin top GL
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Crooked Designer Samba Member

Joined: March 22, 2018 Posts: 573 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Thu May 02, 2024 11:08 am Post subject: Re: What TIRES fit? The ultimate tire thread! |
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Dono Be wrote: |
Here is a before and after pic... side by side of my new 215/65/16 on the 16"x7.5" Mercedes rims
Thanks for all the info on here.
Dono |
2 questions.. 1. Stock height / full westy? 2. Any rubbing on front wheel at full turn? I'm looking to go from 15's to 16's and am trying to figure out tire size and this is my lead option, so would be very helpful to hear your experience so far.
Thanks! _________________ '85 Westy full camper, Subaru 2.5L, 5 speed SubiGears + 5speedbus shifter kit |
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