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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great book.
Lots off good pictures and repairs are done on both an, Early Bay (T2a) and Late Bay (T2b). I don't think there is a panel that the author doesn't touch and suspension and drivetrain refresh are covered as well.
Repair procedures are thorough and explained with the beginner in mind. Good for the beginner as well as the experienced.
There is a very slight language barrier in terminology used, versus the US . But the author does a good job of defining the different terms used. The one thing that would have been helpful is a body diagram of the body panels with the descriptions used, (e.g. A pillar, B pillar etc). Although the terms are used in the industry, a beginner will struggle with deciphering some of the descriptions.

Many thanks to Fletcher Gillet, aka (brothernumberone) and all that contributed to the creation of this book!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got one and looking forward to using it! Previews look like it shows exactly what Id want it to...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm curious... how is the book not just a glorified build thread?


well, no internet connection required for one!

I have it now and it has more detail and photos than any build thread i've seen. its like the build was undertaken knowing from the start it would be used to make a book, thus there is an extensive amount of pictures of detail of metalwork. the bus body chosen needed some of nearly everything too, so its comprehensive. Its great for metal work, and ups the Bentley with respect to some of the mechanical because its a little more real world, where nuts and bolts and worn components dont come apart like its a new bus.

thats whats always bothered me about car manuals, they never deal with the effects of time on the car. they assume everything proceeds without any real complications.


Thanks for the comments everyone Smile
I must admit I did wonder if there was a place for a manual in the age of forums and the web. The reason I think there still is, is for several reasons.
Firstly, the manual costs about £17 on amazon over here, compare that with a £700+ ipad/tablet/laptop which can be ruined in an instant by weld/grinding sparks, brake fluid, oil, or by a multitude of other stuff dropped on it, and it's easy to see why people still like to have a printed manual when working on their vans.
Secondly, I'm a bit old fashioned, but I still like to read books rather than screens, so even if i'm not actively working on a van, I still like to have a book to read. I'm sure I'm not the only one;)
Thirdly, as you all know, there's a load of bollocks on the web, even on forums, and it can sometimes be difficult to find exactly what you're after, be it a fact, setting or photo. For example, a few years ago I was trying to find the position of TDC on a 2 notch repro pulley on a recon T1 twinport, I had loads of conflicting answers, left notch 5ATDC, or TDC or 7.5BTDC or 10BTDC. It was quicker to go out and work it out myself in the end, so I tried as much as possible to check everything, particularly stuff like feature changes by model year and tried to include photos I know I'd have appreciated when I first restored a van. You could certainly find all the info in manuals online, but it would take a while and you'd have to be selective with your searches.
Lastly, it has some features which are seen less frequently on forums, like a buyers guide. I'm not sure how things are for you guys, but in the UK there's a lot of people paying top dollar for vans which often need the same amount spent again or more to repair hidden bodges, rot or bad repairs, so hopefully it'll help people evaluate a van before they buy or even give them a more realistic idea of the level of work needed on their projects.
If anyone has time to leave an Amazon review, it would be much appreciated, I'll buy you a pint if you're ever passing this way Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a good read. Just ordered a copy from Amazon. Says it'll take 3 weeks to ship!?!?!?
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jtauxe wrote:
I'm curious... how is the book not just a glorified build thread?


How is the book not just an edited down Samba Bay Window Forum? So it's more of this forum in print versus online.

That doesn't say the Samba is not important because all the info in the Samba would have been the books source for info.
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jtauxe wrote:
I'm curious... how is the book not just a glorified build thread?


well, no internet connection required for one!

I have it now and it has more detail and photos than any build thread i've seen. its like the build was undertaken knowing from the start it would be used to make a book, thus there is an extensive amount of pictures of detail of metalwork. the bus body chosen needed some of nearly everything too, so its comprehensive. Its great for metal work, and ups the Bentley with respect to some of the mechanical because its a little more real world, where nuts and bolts and worn components dont come apart like its a new bus.

thats whats always bothered me about car manuals, they never deal with the effects of time on the car. they assume everything proceeds without any real complications.
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm curious... how is the book not just a glorified build thread?
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great! Another valuable resource...nice work!
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My copy arrived yesterday from Amazon Canada - about $36 CDN with free shipping. I'm super impressed with it. Well organized and illustrated. I would recommend this book as pre-purchase reading.

With a proofreader named Strange, how could you go wrong?
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW!!! I just go this in the mail..really good work!
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers notchboy Cool
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1967250s wrote:
VWdog, you'll have to find it on ebay, or somewhere similiar(here classifieds). Or get it printed at Kinkos on card stock, make your own cutouts.




Twisted Evil Good luck as I have the only one left in existence, MMmuuhhhaaaaa!!! Twisted Evil

Ever seen one before? Me neither. Its a genuine VW print as in VW accessory Wink

brothernumberone Ill be happy to leave feedback once I get the book.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RixiesRide wrote:
Fletcher, this manual is awesome. I have two buses that I don't know where to start with getting them going again. One of them it's going on nine year's and I've not gotten to enjoy it except to drive it from one repair job to another and then it sits there for years.

Your book is giving me new hope.

The people on this forum are great and extremely helpful but truthfully sometimes I feel kinda stupid not knowing what to ask.

Thank you


Thanks, I'm really pleased you like it. I had the same thing myself when I first restored a van, I sort of got lost in the middle of the restoration and the enthusiasm went and it took a long time to get it back. That's why I think if it's at all possible, it's a got idea to do the work in stages so you can keep using the van.
Good luck with your restos, if you get a chance to leave a review on amazon it would be much appreciated:)
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fletcher, this manual is awesome. I have two buses that I don't know where to start with getting them going again. One of them it's going on nine year's and I've not gotten to enjoy it except to drive it from one repair job to another and then it sits there for years.

Your book is giving me new hope.

The people on this forum are great and extremely helpful but truthfully sometimes I feel kinda stupid not knowing what to ask.

Thank you
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice, ordered one, comes tomorrow!
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm probably buying the book, but I second (or third?) the "Where did you get those cutouts?"

Where?!
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy cow! I just ordered on Sunday and got it today.
Looks too nice to even want to open it
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lil' Lulu wrote:
The maritime NWUSA is so like GB coast that when the English sailors came here they thought they were still home. Rust is us.

Cool book. Bravo!


Cheers!
I've got a '72 in niagara blue and pastel white, best color scheme I think;)
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The maritime NWUSA is so like GB coast that when the English sailors came here they thought they were still home. Rust is us.

Cool book. Bravo!
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 2:15 pm    Post subject: Re: New Bay window restoration manual. Reply with quote

Banjoben wrote:
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It focuses mainly on the bodywork/welding side of things which is the biggest concern over here with our climate and is presumably not so much of an issue for a lot of your vans,

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! you make me laugh!
Where I'm from here in upstate New York air cooled VWs are an endangered species because of rust. They maintain our roads in the winter by pouring salt on them. Body work is the big issue here too.
Thanks for making another resource available to us all.


All we hear over here relating to bays is the sunny climate, rot free imports that are continually imported, so I forgot some of you guys get rain like us;)

Thanks for all the kind comments folks, much appreciated:)
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