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mtnride1
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 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: Window Tinting on Westfalia |
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| shagginwagon83 wrote: |
Yes Mtnride1 said he just had his windshield done. I'd probably do the whole vehicle. Probably 20% all around - maybe lighter on windshield? Mtnride1 what % did you pick for your windshield?
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| Been a while since I did the research on this topic but I thought crystalline or similar product could be used on the windshield. Cuts down heat and sunglare. |
| mtnride1 wrote: |
| I just had my windshield done with a 3M crystalline tint, you can not tell that there is a film on it but it knocks the heat out when you are driving into the sun. |
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Not sure the % but you can hardly tell it is there but sure feel a difference with heat and glare. My two front windows are 30% and the rest are limo dark. I am thinking of having the windows other than windshield redone with the crystalline tint for keeping heat out to.
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jimf909
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:47 pm Post subject: Re: Window Tinting on Westfalia |
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Thanks for the post. The 100 or so comments suggest that this apparently simple test gets complicated pretty quickly. My guess is that Teslas already have high quality heat reflecting glass to maximize efficiency and miles per charge (spend a few dollars on better insulation to promote longer distance traveled per charge) so the non-tinted Tesla May already have been equally well equipped to block the heat. The OP may want to ask Tesla before spending $500 on Crystalline.
RV nerds did some testing themselves showing results for 3M Crystalline (also with plenty of comments)...
https://www.thefitrv.com/rv-tips/testing-3m-crystalline-window-tint-for-our-rv/
As for me, I’ll probably stick with hanging a towel or aluminum foil over the window. 
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calo1956
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: Window Tinting on Westfalia |
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I tinted my bugs windows 20 plus years ago, never went purple, and never bubbled. Don't know if i used anything special, but maybe i did, still looks like the day i put it on, though i did have all the glass out at the time, making it quiet a bit easier...
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Ahwahnee
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:25 pm Post subject: Re: Window Tinting on Westfalia |
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| shagginwagon83 wrote: |
| ...They said an average SUV is like $350-400. I couldn't imagine what a Westy would be |
Might be about the same for a Westy. I do not see a real disadvantage to having the tint done 'windows in' except for the left side rear by the closet.
| shagginwagon83 wrote: |
| Yes Mtnride1 said he just had his windshield done. I'd probably do the whole vehicle. Probably 20% all around - maybe lighter on windshield? |
You might want to check state law before deciding:
https://www.raynofilm.com/blog/automotive-window-tint-laws-by-state
The good news is that Crystalline does not require a really dark tint to be very effective at blocking heat. |
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shagginwagon83
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: Window Tinting on Westfalia |
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Yes Mtnride1 said he just had his windshield done. I'd probably do the whole vehicle. Probably 20% all around - maybe lighter on windshield? Mtnride1 what % did you pick for your windshield?
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| Been a while since I did the research on this topic but I thought crystalline or similar product could be used on the windshield. Cuts down heat and sunglare. |
| mtnride1 wrote: |
| I just had my windshield done with a 3M crystalline tint, you can not tell that there is a film on it but it knocks the heat out when you are driving into the sun. |
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elizer
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: Window Tinting on Westfalia |
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| Been a while since I did the research on this topic but I thought crystalline or similar product could be used on the windshield. Cuts down heat and sunglare. |
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shagginwagon83
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: Window Tinting on Westfalia |
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I called up a shop that install Crystalline and I asked about tenting with glass removed. They said it usually doesn't turn out well? I'd obviously give it time to dry. Best Reflections near Asheville is the shop I called. They said an average SUV is like $350-400. I couldn't imagine what a Westy would be
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ianNJ
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:23 am Post subject: Re: Window Tinting on Westfalia |
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+1 for the professional job. I did 5% except on the front two thats 15%. yes its illegal....but my truck and car have it and Ive not gotten pulled over yet.
Ive learned with other vehicles there are things Im just not willing to agitate myself with. This seems to be something that could take me WAY too long and look like crap. I guess the real question is how much is your time worth?
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| Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:23 pm Post subject: Re: Window Tinting on Westfalia |
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| ledogboy , that actually a darn good thing to point out. I wonder how many people think of that. I got rid of my smoked turnsignals and tailights for the same reason .I really want to be seen on the road. Well at least my lights that is. |
Still have the lenses? Haha I would take them if so! 
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shagginwagon83
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| Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: Window Tinting on Westfalia |
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Yeah I saw that too. However that's on a Tesla. Maybe sun was shining right at the front untinted windshields. It's hard to tell.
I've looked into all of 3M tints. The lowest the Crystalline goes is 20%. I'd like it to be like 5%, but I think I'll be happy with the 20%.
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RoryGirl
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| Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:18 pm Post subject: Re: Window Tinting on Westfalia |
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| 3M Crystalline is supposed to knock down the heat gain which is something I'm interested in. |
This came up when I was searching 3M Crystalline
https://forums.tesla.com/forum/forums/experiment-3...cabin-temp
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Vashon
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| Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:17 pm Post subject: Re: Window Tinting on Westfalia |
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| ledogboy , that actually a darn good thing to point out. I wonder how many people think of that. I got rid of my smoked turnsignals and tailights for the same reason .I really want to be seen on the road. Well at least my lights that is. |
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ledogboy
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| Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: Window Tinting on Westfalia |
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This is probably obvious to most, but since we are talking window tint...
When I had my van's windows tinted (limo in the back, lighter up front), the installer took off my Gowesty 3rd brake light, and then reinstalled it once the tint was on. I never had cause to think about it, until a buddy rescued me from a trail and after following me home mentioned that he hadn't realized I had a third brake light until it got dark out. Doh! Yesterday I finally went out and traced the light with a razor, removed it, scraped off the tint and put everything back together. The third brake light has always been one of my favorite bang/buck mods, so I am happy to have it visible again. Down the road I will likely change the read window tint to something lighter, as I don't love the limo tint when backing up on a dark trail.
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jimf909
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| Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: Window Tinting on Westfalia |
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| I just had my windshield done with a 3M crystalline tint, you can not tell that there is a film on it but it knocks the heat out when you are driving into the sun. |
That's exactly what I was wondering about. I dislike dark tints but the 3M Crystalline is supposed to knock down the heat gain which is something I'm interested in.
Can you say if your windshield is a 100%, i.e. clear, tint or is it something like 80% - 90% tint?
Thanks.
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mtnride1
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| Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: Window Tinting on Westfalia |
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I just had my windshield done with a 3M crystalline tint, you can not tell that there is a film on it but it knocks the heat out when you are driving into the sun.
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70coupyel
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| Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: Window Tinting on Westfalia |
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| I thought it would be best to just pull the glass and take it to my local 3M dealer.. |
where do I had my windows out the glass shop did not want to risk taking the sliding window out of the frame. Give it to them with it out. Flex the frame open larger and take the window out. Sounds easy right?🙄
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erste
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| Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:52 am Post subject: Re: Window Tinting on Westfalia |
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| The idea of transporting glass makes me cringe a little. |
you'll be fine. just transport it upright and be smart about how you package it. |
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shagginwagon83
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| Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:18 pm Post subject: Re: Window Tinting on Westfalia |
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Well I plan to do the window seals this winter. I thought it would be best to just pull the glass and take it to my local 3M dealer.
I guess I'll have to talk to them and see how they feel about this. The idea of transporting glass makes me cringe a little. It's all VW glass =\
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WillSharp
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| Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 8:19 pm Post subject: Re: Window Tinting on Westfalia |
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Personally I don't like taking my van to a shop. Id rather do the work myself but I spent an entire day trying to tint my van myself and it came out like sh*t.
I found a shop and had it done for about $350 I think. Very nice for privacy.
Some shops will tell you they can't tint the window behind the cabinet. It can be done without cabinet removal, you just have to find a shop that knows how.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:50 am Post subject: Re: Window Tinting on Westfalia |
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I paid $410 for a shop to do my Westy in 3M Crystalline.
That was $360 for the install and another $50 for a lifetime guarantee. The install included the R&R of the drivers side rear window.
I know from experience that 3M will honor the lifetime warranty even if the shop goes out of business (you just have to take it to another of their approved shops. This is helpful as there is a lot places that come & go in this business.
It has been 6 years and still looks perfect.
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