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GArBa
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they are the same.
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Dwayne1m
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after 1975 the front turn signals were integrated in the bumper:
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Thanks. They look just like the 68-73 bumpers to me with the exception of the turn signals. |
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Dwayne1m
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Location: Pennsylvania
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Google image search shows others who have done this ..
.. it's your car and if towel bars make you happy and you don't care what people think go for it .. personally, I don't like them - even on period correct cars that came with them. But of course I also don't like all of the period correct accessory doo-dads that some people like to pile on their cars. |
I think the back bumper looks good, but the front bumper is way to low. |
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cseay1
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GArBa
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after 1975 the front turn signals were integrated in the bumper:
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'97 type 1 1600i
'14 type AA Seat Mii (sadly dead after 270.000 km)
'22 type C1 T-Cross
'23 type AC3 Hyundai I10 (VW no longer makes small cars!)
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Dwayne1m
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Location: Pennsylvania
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Come on, these are not aggressive replies. It was intended as a joke, while at the same time saying that it would not look good. Mixing year specific details is rarely a good idea. (One exception could be to put 68-73 Euro bumpers on an american 74 on car instead of the titanic 5 mph bumpers of american 74 to 79 cars) |
I'm curious, what do those European bumpers look like? |
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Superman74
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Location: Tampa, Florida
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| Thanks guys, I didn't mean to step on toes. And that is exactly the look the boys want, I dont mind it either. |
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60ragtop
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Damn, Now where's the mind bleach? |
Don't like the subject matter? stay away 
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I've restored a large number too, but I don't toot my horn quite as loud.
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maybe he just snapped cause his car sucked  |
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79SuperVert
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| ...I have absolutely no idea what a "towel bar" is. |
The Samba dictionary to the rescue:
"Towel bars: Slang term given to the overrider portion of the bumpers on VW Beetles."
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/dic/t.php
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Glenn 
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Damn... just put a link and a disclaimer on that picture.
Now where's the mind bleach?
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60ragtop
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or you can just drill holes in the stock bumper and mount the towel bars.
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Certified Mechanic by the State of Michigan in 1977
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I've restored a large number too, but I don't toot my horn quite as loud.
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| maybe he just snapped cause his car sucked |
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NewTechnicIan
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19super73
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Cusser
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I've owned and worked on VWs for over 40 years, have subscribed to Hot VWs all those years. I have absolutely no idea what a "towel bar" is. Of course, didn't know what someone called an "Oh Shit" handle either, have enough issues trying to comprehend dizzy , mani, etc....that's usually reason enough for me to skip such posts...
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79SuperVert
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| I fully understand how incorrect this will look to those who are stock nazis about the VW. |
There, I corrected it for you. BTW, I prefer stock but that's just my preference.
You DID say right at the start it was a perversion. On this site it's also called an abortion. But it's what YOU want to do. So IMO there's no need to apologize. Fortunately you got some constructive answers. Good luck on the effort. I for one would like to see how it comes out.
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Superman74
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I apologize for taking the responses the wrong way. I fully understand how incorrect this will look to those educated on the VW.
This thread was not created for the VW puritan elites. Rather, it is intended to take a very molested and tattered 73 super (destined for the scrap yard) and create a custom VW.
The dash is not original. The wheels aren’t original, the doors were converted to one piece glass, there aren’t any bumpers, the seats aren't original either. I bought a new custom dash, spent 6K on the drive line, and converted back to original glass.
When I was homeless I would go to the VA hospital weekly to handle my ptsd and other issues. This car is my only creative outlet and helps keeps me grounded. My 6 and 8 year old nephews are having a blast helping me and we settled on non-stock bumpers. I just wanted to elicit some help in seeing my project through.
I know you all can appreciate that. One day I will be better positioned to restore rather than pervert a classic. |
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johnnypan
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| Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:58 am Post subject: Re: Adapting Towel Bars onto a 73 super. |
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| So the subject gives you the jist. This thing is custom so I do not feel terrible about the perversion. I need to figure out how to adapt the pre 67 towel bars to a 73 super. The car just has the cal-look T bars now. I have been diggin for weeks now and there was only samba thread with broken links from 2003. I am hoping someone can guide me here. |
Towel bars do look nice. |
On the cars they belong on..'67 and earlier...a '73 super is what it is,a fine driving and handling beetle that has honest clean lines in its stock configuration.. |
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[email protected]
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| hooray, 73 bumpers are not shock absorbing. Buy the pre 67 bumper, buy a couple of pieces of thick plate steel. Make the brackets to fit the bumper. Welding might come in handy. I put a metal cutting blade on my table saw, makes short work of cutting thick plate. |
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allsidius
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| Wow, those are some pretty passive aggressive replies there. I guess I should have asked what you wanted to talk about instead? |
Come on, these are not aggressive replies. It was intended as a joke, while at the same time saying that it would not look good. Mixing year specific details is rarely a good idea. (One exception could be to put 68-73 Euro bumpers on an american 74 on car instead of the titanic 5 mph bumpers of american 74 to 79 cars)
The front of the Super is very different from the pre 67 standard. Also, the bumper brackets moved from the inside of the apron to the outside in 67/68, ie. the old bracket holes are in the apron for the towel bar bumpers, and in the fenders for post 67 cars. Thats a whole lot of trouble right there.
Most comments here are well meant, not aggressive.
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mountainkowboy
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I think the main problem will be that the curve of the front sheet metal is different than the earlier bugs. It could be done, but you would have to make your own brackets.
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