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matthew henricks
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BulliBill
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Man! You are killin' it with the restoration of these ambulance fans Matthew!
Bill Bowman
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Coeur D'Alene - Lake Shore Volkswagen
Mission VW - San Fernando
Thornton VW - Stockton
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matthew henricks
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matthew henricks
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matthew henricks
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matthew henricks
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62DoKaGuy
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| Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:58 pm Post subject: Re: Ambulance Fan Restoration |
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In disassembling my fans for restoration, I also found these stampings in the fan motor housings next to the QC ink stamps: “KS” and E1” (or EI?).
Any idea what these indicate? They are not the typical SWF date code format, so I figured to hit up the community for insight. Thanks.
EDIT: Well, I need new glasses. I went back and realized I was looking at my Hella date code list. The "KS" seems to indicate October '65, while the "E1/EI" still eludes me. If the stamping was intended to be a "T" but did not punch thoroughly, it could read as May '66.
Hopefully, I'm not stepping all over Matthew's thread here, just looked like the right place to compile ambulance fan info, knowledge, etc. Cheers.
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62DoKaGuy
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| Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:38 pm Post subject: Re: Ambulance Fan Restoration |
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Sorry that i use this thread, but i found some numbers on my ambulance fan and i don't know what they mean? The date code???
-Christian
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Christian, mein 12 Volt Gebläse hat auch "456" als Qualitätsprüfungsnummer. Dachte es wär gut, es zu Protokoll zu geben. Hast Du auch 12 Volt oder 6? Wie stehn die Chancen derselbe Mann (oder Frau haha) hat sie gestempelt!?
For the record, I wanted to show that my fans both have 456 stamped as well.
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| ...I went at it from both ends but going from the rear didn't seem to do anything, although I did spray some rust breaker in there... |
4/62 Double Cab
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62DoKaGuy
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| Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:46 am Post subject: Re: Ambulance Fan Restoration |
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Another fan restored. Just the motors this time but a true 12V unit. Also was able to better match the original paint for this set.
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Hey Matthew, I'm planning on restoring my 12v set in Winter (and using that NOS knob from you, thanks again). What did you find out in matching the paint? Is there an off-the-shelf grey that matches closely?
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4/62 Double Cab
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EverettB 
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thom
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| Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:59 am Post subject: Re: Ambulance Fan Restoration |
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I was looking for parts for my Westfalia Unimog and came across this - maybe this could be used for an ambulance fan switch?
https://www.oldtimerbedarf.de/Lichtschalter-Drehschalter-4-Stufen
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1957 Porsche 356A Sunroof
1957 23-Window Deluxe
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Thompson2
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| Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:16 pm Post subject: Re: Ambulance Fan Restoration |
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| What do you use to lube the motors? I’m assuming a straight non-detergent 30wt or an oil specific for small electric motors. And saturate the felt on both ends? |
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turbotype1
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: Ambulance Fan Restoration |
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Wow Matt those came out great!!!
Didn't look like that when I seen them last....
Thanks....Pete
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This new fad of get it the lowest, or run it with the worst looks, (patina) isn't cool, it's for the hey everyone look at me crowd, i'm driving a beat down ratty, unsafe, VW, how cool am I ???...your not....
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matthew henricks
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:29 am Post subject: Re: Ambulance Fan Restoration |
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Another fan restored. Just the motors this time but a true 12V unit. Also was able to better match the original paint for this set.
Also learned some new tricks to restore the switch electrical.
Always learning and figuring out a better way.
12V stickers in the works and almost available.
switch shims are now available.
I found a limited source for original style switches.
I also did an deep dive into 12V vs 6V motor winding differences. I will post that later.
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1964 Original Owner build Thread. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=702135&highlight=
Ambulance Fan's. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=627707&highlight=
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64 bug nice used front/rear Black LHD floor mat. |
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matthew henricks
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:22 am Post subject: Re: Ambulance Fan Restoration |
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That is pretty typical problem i fix. Usually wiring, bearings or armature problems. Sometimes it is in the actual switch. All can be fixed.
The only think i have not figured out yet is a way to convert from 6V to 12V. The wire gauge or more precise the insulation is not going to take that conversion very well and re-wiring the spindle is a big deal. One of these days i will find a motor that has no prayer for recovery and look into that conversion. For sure can be done...
I tell most people to either run a volt-a-drop or only run on the second speed. Of course how many of us actually use the fans other than a novelty??
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1964 Original Owner build Thread. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=702135&highlight=
Ambulance Fan's. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=627707&highlight=
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64 bug nice used front/rear Black LHD floor mat. |
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EmpiGT
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| Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: Ambulance Fan Restoration |
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| I had fun with those testing them out. One motor spun a lot faster than the other. They were in a mango bus that had set for 35 years when I found them. |
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matthew henricks
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| Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:21 am Post subject: Re: Ambulance Fan Restoration |
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Thanks Guy's.
The corner of the SWR plate was bent in shipping which was a total bummer. I was able to straighten it out with minimal paint loss. I love keeping the original paint when i can. It is rare when the motor and motor bracket can be salvaged as they always seem to be rusty.
Anyways. I enjoy bringing these back to life so send me your damaged, your broken, your dirty and let me see if i can save them.
I am also always on the lookout for reasonably priced parts or damaged parts that might get a second chance at life. Anything in almost any condition 
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1964 Original Owner build Thread. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=702135&highlight=
Ambulance Fan's. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=627707&highlight=
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64 bug nice used front/rear Black LHD floor mat. |
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vwcollective
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:44 pm Post subject: Re: Ambulance Fan Restoration |
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@EmpiGT - I must have been the one who purchased the set from you a while back. They've been in my orig paint SWR for a couple years in non-op condition and I've finally got around to having them gone through.
Matt has done a great job and communicated with me every step along the way - glad to have found someone that takes the time to do such great work - especially on something that can't be replaced! |
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EmpiGT
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:47 am Post subject: Re: Ambulance Fan Restoration |
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That swr set looks familiar. I should have kept those. I bought an so23 missing it's original set a year after selling that one in matching color. Looks like it got bent too. Weird how parts travel and change hands. I had to go look, I sent those to Utah.
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mr. warehouse
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:09 am Post subject: Re: Ambulance Fan Restoration |
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Some work i recently did. All of these got new motor wires, motor armature and bearings cleaned and serviced plus new motor decals. The first and last ones got full motor and behind the plate restorations while the middle just needed a clean-up. One got a switch rebuild with repro black knob.
Usually the hardest part is getting the fan blade off of the armature. It is really easy to destroy the nose and threads on the armature. I have developed a few techniques to do this and now have a reproduction fan mount block in case the fan just not come off.
Fun times. If you need yours worked on look me up.
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