4 Spoke Steering Wheel: Type 4 vs. Type 1

[Kharon8]

Non-cracked wheel may be a hard item to find as these tend to crack by aging and most (all?) of them are 40 or more years old by now.

Fortunately these were originally painted so fill the cracks with epoxy, grind to smooth and paint.

Finding correct paint is another problem, any ideas?

Is it just ordinary car paint?

Mine has paint worn out from the bottom side (as seen from the seat) and new paint would be useful.
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[raygreenwood]

Koch used to have an,excellent kit and a video tutorial for repairing and painting your own wheel. Some of the mags did write ups years back. It can look like factory. Ray

[ClassicCamper]

Budget is tight and you are correct, I'm looking to have the cracks fixed.

[raygreenwood]

So are you just looking for a stock wheel in better condition..... classifieds should get you there......or are you lookkng for something. ...pristine?

Again....you should call Koch. They can refurbish or totally recast your wheel. Superb work. Like factory. And that would depend on what your budget is. Ray

[ClassicCamper]

Thanks Pelle - If anyone has a spare 4 spoke wheel with no cracks, inbox me. I also have a ton on ACVW parts I'm willing to swap. Until then, Ill continue to comb the classifieds

[Pelle]

The steering wheel IS the same as the beetle and Type 3 72-74. It has a bug part no 113 415 651 H

[ClassicCamper]

The responses on this topic seem to be all over the place. Since I'm not planning to epoxy my steering wheel on my 1973 412, i need a newer one.

From what I surmise a VW beetle 4 spoke wheel will fit. However, I cant get a clear answer as to what year Vw beetle steering wheel to use.

Any clarification would be grand. Thanks!

[19super73]

I tried to fit the padded '74 sun bug wheel on my '74 412 last weekend. nope, no go. It (the 412) has the smaller splines from '73 down and the nut is the 24mm, not the larger 26mm.
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1974 412 Variant
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[ubercrap]

One thing interesting to note, is as I recall, the '74 412 did NOT get the steering wheel spline change other aircooled VWs got that model year, which I believe are the same as the early watercooled. I also think there are some Porsche steering wheels that will fit as well.
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'74 412 wagon
(2) '74 412 2dr. sedan
'73 412 2dr. sedan

[titan3c]

Will the SB fit a 71 411? I noticed there was no reference to the 71 411 which has a different 3 spoke steering wheel

[ClassicCamper]

Thanks Lars for helping. At least we can confirm one thing - The 1973 SB steering wheel will work on the 411/412.

I'll try to do some research on other steering wheels as well. As mentioned earlier, I think the splines are different on the '73 SB.

[Lars S]

[ClassicCamper]

If it isn't too much trouble, I would appreciate it Lars. Thanks for offering. At least now we will be able to add this to 'parts compatible with other VW's'.

I like the steering wheel with the white Wolfsburg crest. I think it will look sharp in my 412!

[Lars S]

[ClassicCamper]

Lars, So a 1974 SB will fit the 412? If so, that is great news. Someone told me that the 1973-only SB had different splines, so I guess that year is out.

So now I'm on the hunt for a 1974+ SB steering wheel for my 412!

[Lars S]

[hulken]

I used one of those 74 Super Beetle wheels in my 72 411. So if 73 412 has the same splines as 72 411 it will fit.

[raygreenwood]

[ClassicCamper]

Good to know. How about a 4 spoke bug? Can I use one of them?

[raygreenwood]