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kingkarmann Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 6:34 am Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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Very cool
I think you could have taken them on the outside!
I had an opportunity to take a couple of laps around the Mid Ohio Sports Car Course with Sophia. Thirteen years ago
Great memories.
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Trylon Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 9:53 am Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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Now for something completely different!
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_________________ 1973 Porsche 914 2.0
1959 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
1979 Volkswagen Rabbit
1973 Volkswagen Bus
1970 MGB-GT
1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire
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Loren  Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 12:49 pm Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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There are few NOS mounts for various years for sale in the classifieds. This might be the better options than the new ones? |
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Braukuche Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2025 7:54 am Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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Your car would have came with a split case trans and was converted to the later tunnel trans. You need the same style mount that was on the car (not a split case).
The new mounts suck. The rubber splits in weeks in some cases. I take my old mount, drill a hole through them and run a 10mm acros the flats bolt and nut through them. Never have a problem after that.
Other guys have started running mid mounts because the problem is so ubiquitous. _________________ Go Reds! Smash state!
Retirement is here!
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now
1989 Westfalia |
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kingkarmann Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 12:51 pm Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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The mounts look nearly the same as far as the studs and holes in the bracket goes.
The overall shape of the new bracket looks larger than the original.
I would think the new one could be used.
Maybe mount each bracket to the frame and take measurements to compare the overall depth of each. |
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Trylon Samba Member

Joined: August 16, 2019 Posts: 4976 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 9:02 am Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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So, although I have a few more tools and a modicum of greater wisdom, each new system I approach is like starting over. The transmission is no different.
It seemed like a good time to replace the oil soaked mount, so I sent for one that matched the year of the transmission— thought I was pretty much ahead of the curve with that thinking. Well, the problem is that it needs to attach to what I am assuming is an older chassis.
So, my concern is that the replacement will somehow cause a problem when it is all put back together and am leaning towards just throwing the old mount back on and calling it a day.
What say ye ol’ The Samba Oracle? Might this be the correct one?
https://www.jbugs.com/product/311301265B.html _________________ 1973 Porsche 914 2.0
1959 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
1979 Volkswagen Rabbit
1973 Volkswagen Bus
1970 MGB-GT
1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire
More tomfoolery on
The Karmann Ghia Fever YouTube Channel!
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Trylon Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2025 12:43 pm Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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Such slow going.
So it seems likely that the nosecone seal might have been the reason I had to pull the transmission — transmission fluid was leaking from that general vicinity and it was not intact.
Of course, the seal that came with the kit is not the right one.
Found the right one on JBugs. Another shipping charge, another week. _________________ 1973 Porsche 914 2.0
1959 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
1979 Volkswagen Rabbit
1973 Volkswagen Bus
1970 MGB-GT
1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire
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Trylon Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2025 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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And, lastly, the nose cone.
There were no washers for the attaching nuts.
_________________ 1973 Porsche 914 2.0
1959 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
1979 Volkswagen Rabbit
1973 Volkswagen Bus
1970 MGB-GT
1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire
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Trylon Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 12:01 pm Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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Braukuche wrote: |
Wow, some gorgeous cars there!
Pretty hardcore of you delving into mysteries of the transaxle. Good luck with it. |
Yeah, it was a fun meet-up!
I am hoping to go no further in than simply replacing the o-rings, shims, and whatever the nose cone requires (gasket?). It just was all so wet it would have been remiss to not take the opportunity to at least attempt to slow down the leaks. _________________ 1973 Porsche 914 2.0
1959 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
1979 Volkswagen Rabbit
1973 Volkswagen Bus
1970 MGB-GT
1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire
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Braukuche Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:58 am Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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Wow, some gorgeous cars there!
Pretty hardcore of you delving into mysteries of the transaxle. Good luck with it. _________________ Go Reds! Smash state!
Retirement is here!
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now
1989 Westfalia |
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Trylon Samba Member

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Trylon Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 9:20 am Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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kingkarmann wrote: |
Trylon wrote: |
kingkarmann wrote: |
Doing this kind of work is easier when you have a nice little 914 to clear your head after a day of wrenching.
Your in deep now.
That will look great after a good powerwash  |
Ha! Don’t you know it!
Off to Lime Rock next Sunday:
FCP Euro Sunday Motoring Meet at Lime Rock Park - VW/Audi/Porsche/Mercedes
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/fcp-euro-sunday-motor...7093833419 |
Pictures Please!! |
I fear most cars will be on the new side but will search out the interesting ones and create a Google album of them for your viewing pleasure King. _________________ 1973 Porsche 914 2.0
1959 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
1979 Volkswagen Rabbit
1973 Volkswagen Bus
1970 MGB-GT
1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire
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kingkarmann Samba Member

Joined: November 05, 2003 Posts: 4516
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 8:46 am Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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Trylon wrote: |
kingkarmann wrote: |
Doing this kind of work is easier when you have a nice little 914 to clear your head after a day of wrenching.
Your in deep now.
That will look great after a good powerwash  |
Ha! Don’t you know it!
Off to Lime Rock next Sunday:
FCP Euro Sunday Motoring Meet at Lime Rock Park - VW/Audi/Porsche/Mercedes
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/fcp-euro-sunday-motor...7093833419 |
Pictures Please!! |
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Trylon Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 8:40 am Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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kingkarmann wrote: |
Doing this kind of work is easier when you have a nice little 914 to clear your head after a day of wrenching.
Your in deep now.
That will look great after a good powerwash  |
Ha! Don’t you know it!
Off to Lime Rock next Sunday:
FCP Euro Sunday Motoring Meet at Lime Rock Park - VW/Audi/Porsche/Mercedes
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/fcp-euro-sunday-motor...7093833419 _________________ 1973 Porsche 914 2.0
1959 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
1979 Volkswagen Rabbit
1973 Volkswagen Bus
1970 MGB-GT
1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire
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The Karmann Ghia Fever YouTube Channel! |
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kingkarmann Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 8:19 am Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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Doing this kind of work is easier when you have a nice little 914 to clear your head after a day of wrenching.
Your in deep now.
That will look great after a good powerwash  |
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Trylon Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 5:21 am Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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Okay, passenger’s side opened:
I was surprised at the emptiness found haha!
Also, have finally discovered the number of the transmission:
Nose cone is next, then a parts list for sealing this all back up again. _________________ 1973 Porsche 914 2.0
1959 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
1979 Volkswagen Rabbit
1973 Volkswagen Bus
1970 MGB-GT
1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire
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Trylon Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 10:49 am Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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Thanks John! As you might imagine, I have been voraciously consuming YouTube videos on the subject. I have yet to find these though.
As I circle around our current project (and now I have ChatGPT to consult, albeit cautiously), it is my current understanding that the axle shaft should be dry. It is wet along its entire length! Further there is pooling of gear oil in the housing. The conclusion to draw from this seems to be that the inner axle seal has failed. It also seems to be the case that this can occur if the paper shims are not of the proper thickness. Sigh… I have yet to measure but I have yet to see a single case where one such shim is sufficient. Seems as though someone thought is was simply a gasket and, well, why waste another?
So it looks like we have to dig deeper. Gotta find a puller for this bearing…
[edit] Well it seems that the axle is indeed supposed to be wet in a swing axle setup—
From Rod and Dave:
If you have a swing axle, the bearings are harder to get out as you need an "inside" puller to grab the inside of the outer bearing race (after removing the cover plate inside the brake assembly of course). The only other way to get this off is to remove the whole axle and axle-tube from the car and tap the gearbox end of the axle so it pushes the bearing out of the outer end (using the axle itself to push the bearing out). The bearings are not really tight in the tube - just nothing to grab on to to help remove them. Once again, when taking the brake assembly off the spring plate - make sure you mark them so you can re-align them on re-assembly. There is a "v" notch in the top of the brake hub assembly to help you with this - just make a mark on the spring plate next to it.
These bearings use oil from the gearbox which sloshes up the axle tubes and sits behind the bearing. Low oil in the gearbox can therefore cause dry wheel bearings (the gearbox must be filled with 80w90 or 85w90 Hypoid Gear Oil until it runs out the filler plug in the left side of the gearbox). _________________ 1973 Porsche 914 2.0
1959 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
1979 Volkswagen Rabbit
1973 Volkswagen Bus
1970 MGB-GT
1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire
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John Moxon  Samba Moderator

Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 14205 Location: Southampton U.K.
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 8:53 am Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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Trylon wrote: |
So I am wondering what caused that transmission fluid to leak on the driver’s side. I thought it was the boot but upon inspection it seems intact. The large o-ring, although I have yet to remove it, also does not seem to have any issues. The one thing that is odd though is that there seems to be a single paper shim. Perhaps it is two stuck together but I am suspicious that it was of an insufficient thickness as the axle simply flops about. I believe there is supposed to be some resistance? |
Have a looks at Pete's YouTube videos on Swing Axle Installation Parts 1 & 2
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Trylon Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 5:32 am Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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So I am wondering what caused that transmission fluid to leak on the driver’s side. I thought it was the boot but upon inspection it seems intact. The large o-ring, although I have yet to remove it, also does not seem to have any issues. The one thing that is odd though is that there seems to be a single paper shim. Perhaps it is two stuck together but I am suspicious that it was of an insufficient thickness as the axle simply flops about. I believe there is supposed to be some resistance? _________________ 1973 Porsche 914 2.0
1959 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
1979 Volkswagen Rabbit
1973 Volkswagen Bus
1970 MGB-GT
1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire
More tomfoolery on
The Karmann Ghia Fever YouTube Channel! |
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Trylon Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:10 am Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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Oh, I almost forgot— I promised entertainment for expertise:
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Ok, your turn. _________________ 1973 Porsche 914 2.0
1959 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
1979 Volkswagen Rabbit
1973 Volkswagen Bus
1970 MGB-GT
1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire
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