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markeaton
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 Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 4:19 pm Post subject: Re: 1966 dash knobs (photos included) |
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Interesting... I do need to now verify this... I'm about 90% done, so it really doesn't matter as far as parts, etc. But I would like to know. Like you said, enjoy it  |
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peecee69
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| Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: 1966 dash knobs (photos included) |
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The M Code tag has been removed from the pass seat seat. Just the two diff ones on rear apron area and vent.
I think I will check into the Vermont title service. I'd just like to know.
The "they" peecee I was referring too is the DMV's. I thought they always had to do a records search on title to make sure they were correct. |
It depends. If in-state, they just unknowingly transfer the wrong information to the new owner (unless that person debates it). If out of state, it depends on the state. In the states I've lived, they all have the state police verify the VIN and I take that document with the title to the DMV. Fortunately, I haven't had the issue you're having. But, that's not insurmountable.
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markeaton
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| Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: 1966 dash knobs (photos included) |
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The M Code tag has been removed from the pass seat seat. Just the two diff ones on rear apron area and vent.
I think I will check into the Vermont title service. I'd just like to know.
The "they" peecee I was referring too is the DMV's. I thought they always had to do a records search on title to make sure they were correct. |
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widehatch
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| Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 1:46 pm Post subject: Re: 1966 dash knobs (photos included) |
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someone at one point in the past lost the title to your bus and swapped out vin tags from another bus. your bus has 2 different vin numbers now. the correct one (assigned by Volkswagen) is stamped into the metal in the engine compartment. the tag on the air box belongs to a different bus. did you ever confirm the the m-code tag (which includes the vin #) is screwed on the bulkhead wall behind the passenger seat? your best interest will be to get a proper title for the vin in the engine compartment and remove the tag on the air box as it is incorrect. a title service can handle this and it usually performed in Vermont. totally legal and legit, do some research and verify.
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peecee69
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| Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 1:02 pm Post subject: Re: 1966 dash knobs (photos included) |
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| How can they make a title with a VIN in registry if it is the wrong one? |
Not sure who the "they" you're talking about are. Because our buses are so old, many people don't know where to look for a VIN. Mistakenly thinking the tag on the airbox is correct and matches what is stamped onto the body is fairly common. The police typically verify the VIN, and they may take the current owner's word for it that the tag on the airbox is correct.
If you mean Vermont, they have some loopholes and it's pretty easy to get the correct VIN on a title.
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markeaton
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| Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: 1966 dash knobs (photos included) |
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| How can they make a title with a VIN in registry if it is the wrong one? |
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widehatch
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| Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: 1966 dash knobs (photos included) |
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one mystery solved. your bus is a 1967 model. luckily for you you live next to Vermont so you can get a Vermont title for the correct 1967 vin number then reregister it in New Hampshire.
https://cartitle.com/
now that that is solved, take a picture of your gas door from the outside and the inside of the engine compartment. my guess is someone replaced it so it would resemble a 1966.
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Clara 
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| Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: 1966 dash knobs (photos included) |
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| markeaton wrote: |
| Sure seems that way.... I need to contact the PO to let him know too. |
I guess the question becomes - what VIN is on the title/bill of sale? Not sure if it's worth the hassle to fix, or if you'll want to get a new/correct airbox tag to match the real VIN. The tag on your airbox should have a VIN that matches the one stamped in the engine bay. |
FIFY
FWIW VW put a VIN tag in the engine bay till 63. At some time in 63 they moved the VIN tag to the air box.
It is normal and proper for a 66 or a 67 to have a VIN tag on the air box.
info on id-ing your VW Bus:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/id.php
To anyone buying a bus, good idea to check the numbers match the bus and the VIN on the title.
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markeaton
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| Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 11:25 am Post subject: Re: 1966 dash knobs (photos included) |
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| Great questions peecee.... I need to talk with PO first. Then decide from there. Thank you |
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peecee69
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| Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 11:09 am Post subject: Re: 1966 dash knobs (photos included) |
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| markeaton wrote: |
| Sure seems that way.... I need to contact the PO to let him know too. |
I guess the question becomes - what VIN is on the title/bill of sale? Not sure if it's worth the hassle to fix, or if you'll want to get a new/correct airbox tag to match the real VIN. The tag on your airbox goes in the engine bay, but with the correct/matching VIN to what's stamped on the metal.
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markeaton
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| Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 11:06 am Post subject: Re: 1966 dash knobs (photos included) |
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| Sure seems that way.... I need to contact the PO to let him know too. |
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Clara
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| Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 10:11 am Post subject: Re: 1966 dash knobs (photos included) |
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Checked out as not stolen.
I'm thinking more that it used parts of a 66 and 67. |
as in 'someone put a air vent tag from a 66 on a 67'.
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markeaton
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| Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 8:49 am Post subject: Re: 1966 dash knobs (photos included) |
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Checked out as not stolen.
I'm thinking more that it used parts of a 66 and 67. |
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ToolBox
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| Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 8:45 am Post subject: Re: 1966 dash knobs (photos included) |
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| Oh boy.... I found it. Not good. Third digit a "7". |
Might want to run the VIN through NICB's VINCheck to see if it is hot. Would suck to put a ton of cash into it if it is on the hot sheet.
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peecee69
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markeaton
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| Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 7:14 am Post subject: Re: 1966 dash knobs (photos included) |
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| Oh boy.... I found it. Not good. Third digit a "7". |
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Okie Adam
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| Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:55 am Post subject: Re: 1966 dash knobs (photos included) |
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The diagonal edge of the apron, that is
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Okie Adam
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| Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:54 am Post subject: Re: 1966 dash knobs (photos included) |
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Other side, above the edge with the screw through it.
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markeaton
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| Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:37 am Post subject: Re: 1966 dash knobs (photos included) |
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Is it under my finger?
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Okie Adam
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| Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:24 am Post subject: Re: 1966 dash knobs (photos included) |
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Shouldn't be under the apron. In this pic the rusted area is what the apron covers. The vin should be right above the edge of the apron.
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