Are notchbacks illegal?

[Thing #6]

My nearest HOA is about 40 miles from here.

My area has a 1-acre minimum, and until about two years ago, half of the lots were empty. Then we got "discovered," and now most of the lots within half a mile have homes on them. Some of the people moving here really should stay in the city, but most are learning that we live and let live in this neighborhood. Don't be a nuisance or noisy (most of the time) and we all get along ok.

[stagewex]

Very cool car though I could see someone comparing after a couple weeks. The missing fender was probably the worst. But when you get it running again and a fender & light functioning I'd leave it that way. It'll please the "patina crowd" and also shut-up your neighbor who I assume you don't have much of a relationship with in the first place.

We have a local ordinance where I live of no overnight parking and only one (1) hour parking during the daytime in the street. And it's a dead-end. It's never been enforced and in the 25 years I have lived here no one ever called the police because of a car. But the ordinance must be from someone or some incident that happened a long time ago I suppose? We live by Iona College and they don't have a lot of student or faculty parking there, just a guess.

Why didn't you just push it back into your driveway anyway, not like it's a Cadillac?

[Air-Cooled Head]

[OB Bus]

[oprn]

As in when you pull out in traffic when it is not safe to do so?

Now I agree that an underpowered car can be a bit more difficult when merging into fast heavy traffic. That takes more driver skill and maybe route planning for sure but busses and trucks manage it as do work pickups pulling trailers. Are we going to ban them for their lack of instant launch capability?

If you are going to make notchbacks illegal you better include fastbacks, square backs, all type 2s, older Beetles, mopeds and small motorbikes, early Honda Civics and a host of other vehicles.
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[Jacks]

Well, there have been times where I was able to avoid a collision by stepping on the accelerator rather than the brakes.
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[oprn]

Since when is safety a function of acceleration rates? That right there is a load of bull!
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[Randall]

Are notchbacks illegal?
If they aren't -- they should be.¹

See Road&Track road test. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/magazines/road_track_5_62/VW_1500_4.jpg
With 1493 cc engine it accelerated from 0-60 mph in 24 sec. It could hardly get out of its own way.

By comparison a 1963 Opel Kadett with a 993 cc, 4-speed manual went 0-60 in 18.8 sec. That's a 21.7% reduction in elapsed time on an engine with a 33.5% smaller displacement. https://www.automobile-catalog.com/performance/1963/2411345/opel_kadett_1000.html
My '63 Notch goes from 0-60 in 15 sec. That's with 1678 cc, dual carbs, dual port heads, slightly better cam -- .387 lift with 1.1 rockers, 254° advertised duration.

¹This applies to a stock Notch. Ask the man who owns one with a modified engine.

[Lingwendil]

We just bought our house last December, and one of my main things I stressed to our Realtor (great guy, in all honesty!) is that I absolutely refused to even look at houses in HOA neighborhoods. Never again will I put up with that nonsense.
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[Erik G]

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[Jacks]

Some folks say that they can hear plants screaming 😱
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[KTPhil]

Yeah, the problem usually isn't the board itself, but a nosy/noisy neighbor who has nothing better to do.

I had one complain that the gardener started 15 minutes early "making excessive noise." They were not talking, no radio, and were pulling weeds BY HAND. How can that possibly be "too noisy"?

I am on our HOA board and I have little patience for that crap. But not all are so reasonable.

[tcmia]

Some organized neighborhoods are a real pain. Some years back in Miami, I was working on my car in my mothers garage with the garage door raised maybe 30". She received a citation from the neighborhood association. I finished the work with the door closed. It had to be one of the neighbors, who else is going to all the trouble to find out what is going on in someones mostly closed garage.

Several years later I had a bus. It was parked in my house behind the fence while I was repairing the rust on the front window. I received a letter from my home owner insurance that I had to remove the VW bus or they would cancel my home insurance due to it being a fire hazard.

[vdubjiunkie]

Ok, I've got a story too. This one isn't about cars, but is about HOA.

One day I was up on a ladder in the process of building a patio cover at my condo, when a woman I never saw stopped by, initially asking general interest questions.

Next thing I knew, the mood shifted when she asked "do you get perrmission for that work?"

"Of course" I replied.

Then it really stepped up a notch, when she said "That's funny, I don't remember approving it."

"That is funny" as I continued hammering.

So she asked to see the paperwork. I walked in to the house, grabbed it, handed it to her, and climbed back up my ladder, and continued working.

She looked over it, said something about how long ago it was approved, to which I replied "yeah, but I didn't notice any expiration date", and she agreed, then left.

A week or so later I got a letter in the mail complaining about the "length of the footers" and some other thing that confused terms, which I forget. I had fun writing the response, explaining how the rafters (footers) are installed, then all marked and cut to the proper length afterward, and how the footers were in the ground, the appropriate size, and unable to be seen without digging.

Basically, "get a f***ing life" and leave me to live mine.
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[Lingwendil]

When my ex and I lived in a gated community way up in the hills with her parents (back in 2010 or so) I drove a flat black 1971 Ford maverick with a glasspack. All of our neighbors owned cars less than 5 years old. The neighbors reported it as abandoned weekly, and we would get notices in our mailboxes regarding it.

One day the the HOA reps came to knock on our door to serve us paperwork saying that "since it wasn't running" it wasn't allowed to be stored there, and that they would be issuing daily fines until it is relocated and stored out of sight. It was my daily driver, did not leak any fluids, was currently registered and insured, and had the required parking tag issued by the HOA- so I literally told them to get bent. There were no specific statutes against a vehicles age, sound level, or appearance, so they were furious that the thing was in the clear. The reps were furious that I literally told them to wait a second- and I walked over to it and sat inside. I pull out the key and it starts immediately. I went on to explain that I drive it nearly sixty miles round trip daily to work and back. From there I told them to mind their own business and to stop harassing me. Never got another knock or notice.

Miss that car, not the ex
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73 super beetle thread http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=649622 Back on the Road!

Modify your Kadrons for SVDA http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8115884#8115884

Cast iron VJU4BR8 SVDA reference thread- https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0

Need replacement filters for original Kadron aircleaners? WIX #42087 is a perfect fit, as is Napa Gold #2087!

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