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Patina or Restore
Patina and drive it
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2025 10:13 am    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project Reply with quote

Dan22 wrote:
You may have a bent rod. Make sure the piston is not cocked in the bore on that rod as an indication. I had encountered this on my motor build.


Hopefully you've got it all fixed up. But a twisted or bent rod was common enough that a kit was available to VW dealerships to check, re-straighten and ream connecting rods and it's part number(s) are VW Special Service tool #214, 214b, with supplemental kits #214c, 214d etc.

Check out the tool listing under "Technical" or click this: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/tools/214b_front.jpg

It came in a nice German wooden box too. I have one here but have never used it yet.

Glad to hear that you have things working/loose again!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project Reply with quote

Dan22 wrote:
You may have a bent rod. Make sure the piston is not cocked in the bore on that rod as an indication. I had encountered this on my motor build.


Turns smooth now and endplay is set, so I think I'm good!

Will show photos of it mounted to the transmission this weekend hopefully!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2025 9:42 am    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project Reply with quote

You may have a bent rod. Make sure the piston is not cocked in the bore on that rod as an indication. I had encountered this on my motor build.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:37 pm    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project Reply with quote

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Thanks for getting back to me. I fixed it today.

I disassembled the left side which is where I recalled the engine getting significantly tighter when turning it after I put it together. With just the rods looking at me, I had end play.

The piston pins needed to be sanded down a bit so that the pistons were free to ever so slightly slide front the back. I did that, oiled em up and slide em back in and now either everything assembled again, I have end play. I have 6 shims so hopefully tmrw I can find the right combination to get it to .004.


Glad you got it figured out! Now you have to go driving!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:43 pm    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project Reply with quote

Thanks for getting back to me. I fixed it today.

I disassembled the left side which is where I recalled the engine getting significantly tighter when turning it after I put it together. With just the rods looking at me, I had end play.

The piston pins needed to be sanded down a bit so that the pistons were free to ever so slightly slide front the back. I did that, oiled em up and slide em back in and now either everything assembled again, I have end play. I have 6 shims so hopefully tmrw I can find the right combination to get it to .004.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:02 am    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project Reply with quote

What were the crank journals at?

Is the distributor binding it up at all?

Front pulley rubbing on the case?

If the crank is tight, maybe you pinched a bearing.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 7:15 am    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project Reply with quote

Running into an issue here. Maybe I could get some advice.

Rebuilt a 36hp out to a long block for the moment. It spins, although tight ... I was attributing that just to new parts and compression.

But I have no end play. Can't get the crank to slide front to back at all. This is with the flywheel off.

I'm thinking at the very least I'll need to take the heads off and slide the cylinders out and see if I have any then and if not will need to split the case. I absolutely had movement front to back in the crank when I laid it in the case half.

Any thoughts?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2025 9:55 am    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project Reply with quote

Not yet, but thanks for the prodding. I'm thinking about doing so like I did with the full restoration of my '59 Double-Cab Pick-up ( seen here: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=545000 ).

FYI I bought this Dec of 1956 ('57 model year USA spec Oval Kabriolett back in 1994 or '95 as an in-progress project all blown apart and in primer. Moved it all 2 hours to my place and put it away for future consideration back in a corner of my garage for storage and then buried it under a lot of it's disassembled parts. "outta sight, outta mind" ya know? For 30 years I've been buying more/better parts and accessories for it. The pile got deeper. I'm retired now from a 44 year career as a TWA and AA F/A (Flight Attendant) and F/A safety instructor, and now I have the time (and no more excuses) thirty years later to get on with the full resto...

I'll try to start a build thread soon... I swear!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:12 pm    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project Reply with quote

BulliBill wrote:
I'm doing a resto on a '57 Kabriolett now.

Bill


Bill, do you have a build thread going on here for your '57?? Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2025 12:50 pm    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project Reply with quote

Thanks Bill ... Good luck with your project too!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:16 am    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project Reply with quote

Yep! I'd definitely fully restore the rarer and cool '55 Sunroof. So unique, and more valuable when done right! Perhaps I'm biased a bit, as I luckily found a very nice condition unrestored original June of '55 Sunroof almost 30 years ago and it's the queen of my collection. I'm doing a resto on a '57 Kabriolett now.

Both your Ovals would be nice to have restored, but the '55 three-fold sunroof definitely has my vote!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 6:57 pm    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project Reply with quote

As my summer break comes to an end, I finished up the chassis on the 55.

All that's left to do is fill and bleed the brakes and clear out one of the heater cable tubes which feels like it has cement in it.

Overall, I'm happy with it.

Next up is to build the engine, mount it and see if it runs. It's a case from 36hp dated in 57.

The body is being media blasted this week. Will post photos of it after it's done.



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:21 am    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project Reply with quote

I removed the apron, measured up and cut out the right rear quarter. I'm pretty happy with how curving the bottom lip on it came out. I made it match the factory curves, being tighter in the rear and a wider gap as it goes forward.

I also painted two wheels ....sometimes you just gotta see color, hah!

Strato silver and pearl white (which I hope is the correct inner color ... It's certainly different from silver white).
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:58 am    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project Reply with quote

nice work on that!! Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2025 5:34 pm    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project Reply with quote

Finished up work on the floors today. Pretty happy with how they came out.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2025 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project Reply with quote

One thing I've learned from this hobby over the last 25 years is that sometimes you just need to see a small victory... In this case it meant painting the shifter and base L75 beige after some rust treatment. Although I think the base gets painted black ...

I also split the case on the 36hp to see what was inside ...
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2025 6:58 pm    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project Reply with quote

Thanks Everett ... That means a lot coming from you.

Will keep plugging along and add photos whenever I make some sort of significant progress.

This week I'll be replacing the rear pan quarters on both sides, then hitting the frame and floors with Eastwood encapsulator.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2025 2:36 am    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project Reply with quote

Just to clarify I voted patina........but the other half of me says '55 sunroofs are pretty rare and restoration is the way to go! Rust never sleeps......
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2025 5:29 pm    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project Reply with quote

First, I'm enjoying this thread so thanks for doing it.

Second, this is a cool photo:
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I see it's behind your fence but I still imagine driving by and seeing that in someone's side yard and being "Holy shit, an Oval!"
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2025 2:17 pm    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project Reply with quote

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Body is off the pan. Today I took the front axle and transmission out and scrubbed the pan w degreaser. If it ever stops raining here I'll apply phosphoric acid and then por15 the whole thing ... After I replace the rear pan halves and weld up a few small holes on the driver's front.
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