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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Query about unfinished drywall in garages in US Reply with quote

About 10 years back we had a plow wind go through and did a lot of damage. It destroyed the kid's play house, flattened the sides on my utility/garbage trailer, flattened the corral fences, damaged the roof and one side of the holiday trailer, ripped a lot of shingles off the garage and took the roof off our "barn" (a 14'X 16' building).

The insurance adjuster showed up...

"Your policy does not cover fences."
"Anything with wheels is not covered, you need a separate policy for trailers."
"What is in this barn?"

"25 chickens."

"That is a commercial enterprise and not covered under a home owner's policy."

Fortunately it was -25* and he was in street shoes and a suit jacket so I gave him the grand tour. He was so cold by the time we got to the garage that he did not look in it or ask what was in there so in the end I got away with it being my workshop. I was not expecting to!

In the end he paid $1200 for the kid's play house and covered the cost of the shingles but not the labor. "Depreciation" he called it.

That is the way insurance works here!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Query about unfinished drywall in garages in US Reply with quote

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In the USA, I've never had a home insurance company ask me if I do stuff in my garage or even ask for photos or come look at the house in person to decide on anything.

The way it will likely work is that when you make a claim the insurance investigator will start kicking up tools in the ashes then... they are done. Your insurance is null and void due to you being untruthful about the use of the premises.

They don't have the time or the staff to police all their customers. If you tell them what you are doing in there they will make a note of it and up your rates. If you do not tell them and make a claim then there is no payout. Either was it's a win-win for them and a lose-lose for you.


No oprn. That’s not how it works in the US, in all states. Depends on the policy of the insurance company and state rules and regulations. Xatie used to investigate home claims in Oregon. For example, I can do or keep whatever I want in my detached or attached garage. I might not be able to use my garage as a place of doing business though. Again a lot of variables. If I have a fancy kick ass finshed garage I might want to spend more to cover the loss because it raises the value of my home. You being in Canada things are probably different.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Query about unfinished drywall in garages in US Reply with quote

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In the USA, I've never had a home insurance company ask me if I do stuff in my garage or even ask for photos or come look at the house in person to decide on anything.

The way it will likely work is that when you make a claim the insurance investigator will start kicking up tools in the ashes then... they are done. Your insurance is null and void due to you being untruthful about the use of the premises.

They don't have the time or the staff to police all their customers. If you tell them what you are doing in there they will make a note of it and up your rates. If you do not tell them and make a claim then there is no payout. Either way it's a win-win for them and a lose-lose for you.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Query about unfinished drywall in garages in US Reply with quote

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In the USA, I've never had a home insurance company ask me if I do stuff in my garage or even ask for photos or come look at the house in person to decide on anything.


I have, twice. By two different insurance companies. But I live in a neighborhood over a hundred years old in Oregon. Both insurance companies sent a person, similar to an appraiser
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:03 am    Post subject: Re: Query about unfinished drywall in garages in US Reply with quote

In the USA, I've never had a home insurance company ask me if I do stuff in my garage or even ask for photos or come look at the house in person to decide on anything.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 10:11 am    Post subject: Re: Query about unfinished drywall in garages in US Reply with quote

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Back before the common practice of attached garages insurance companies would jack up your rate of the garage was attached to your home. I am not sure if you can ask for and get a reduction today if the garage is separate. It seems to me you should be able to.

Another thing I found out recently is that a garage is in the insurance company's eyes "a place where your car is parked". If you have tools and a work bench it is no longer a garage. It is now a "workshop" and comes at a higher premium! Seems they frown on people doing things in their "garage".



Rates for detached garage or structures versus an attached garage may or may not affect the cost of a policy in the United States. Many variables are considered underwriting policies. In the US insurance regulations/laws may vary from state to state.

Looks like insurance policies and regulations are different in Canada.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 9:09 am    Post subject: Re: Query about unfinished drywall in garages in US Reply with quote

Back before the common practice of attached garages insurance companies would jack up your rate of the garage was attached to your home. I am not sure if you can ask for and get a reduction today if the garage is separate. It seems to me you should be able to.

Another thing I found out recently is that a garage is in the insurance company's eyes "a place where your car is parked". If you have tools and a work bench it is no longer a garage. It is now a "workshop" and comes at a higher premium! Seems they frown on people doing things in their "garage".
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Query about unfinished drywall in garages in US Reply with quote

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With the popularity of wall shelves and racks, leaving the stud locations evident is also an advantage.

But it's to be cheap.


a magnet can find the studs with nails or screws in it. once one is located, one can measure for the next stud as the studs are standard spacing apart, 16 inch being the most common spacing center to center.
or a stud finder can be used that will locate each stud

of course all the chicks call me stud. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2025 9:18 am    Post subject: Re: Query about unfinished drywall in garages in US Reply with quote

I was amazed & impressed with the drone shots of neighborhoods on the show "Love On The Spectrum".
The design & craftsmanship is/was VERY high quality.
I think that was filmed in Australia.

Houses require maintenance.
Hire the best quality you can.
Research before you commit your money.

There's too many Chuck-in-a-truck or Stan-with-a-van out there doing shoddy work.
The good ones stay booked up due to word of mouth.

In the HVAC trade feet go thru ceilings.
Some customers go "OH MY GOSH, WHAT THE HECK " !
Others go "eh, fix it".
We fixed what we broke, that's only fair.

Skilled workers ain't cheap & cheap workers ain't skilled.


Huge difference between ProMar200 and Cashmere interior paint from Sherwin Williams.
A good painter can put a straight line with a Harbor Freight brush but Purdy is more durable.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 5:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Query about unfinished drywall in garages in US Reply with quote

Thanks everyone.

We too are not immune from poor tradespeople who cut corners, but when I see so many "unfinished" garages it just is interesting.

No new houses here are ever allowed to be half-finished like this. I realise it is a cost issue. I guess that is why we have some of the highest cost houses in the world due to our high cost of trades.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 3:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Query about unfinished drywall in garages in US Reply with quote

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It is a cost thing.






"Builder quality" should be included with jumbo shrimp & small crowd.
And Legislative Ethics. To


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Query about unfinished drywall in garages in US Reply with quote

It is a cost thing.

A builder pays the General Contractor & they allot certain monies to pay subcontractors. The further down the "food chain" the less is available.
Even multimillion dollar buildings have corners cut - hollow spaces under tiles, cracked window frames, & no where near enuff insulation.
"Builder quality" should be included with jumbo shrimp & small crowd.

Another factor mite be whether a garage mounted water heater is gas or electric.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Query about unfinished drywall in garages in US Reply with quote

Ultimately it comes down to cost. A house is built, the painters come in and aren’t paid to paint the garage, and it stays bare.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Query about unfinished drywall in garages in US Reply with quote

Good point, I also recall when I did my shop that the wiring had to be done differently if it wasn't going to be covered by drywall, armored cables and steel boxes IIRC.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Query about unfinished drywall in garages in US Reply with quote

It isn't just fire rating (although that's a very important point), it's also about keeping fumes out of the living spaces in homes with attached garages.
A proper drywalled, taped, and mudded garage will keep dangerous off gasses and automobile fumes from entering the living areas.

If you care about your families health making sure there are no leaks from cheap construction between the garage and the rest of your home is a simple precaution.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 8:31 am    Post subject: Re: Query about unfinished drywall in garages in US Reply with quote

Cost. The drywall in my garage is finished, textured and painted. I had never seen a garage with textured walls before. My house was very high end when built in '77. Not so high end now. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 7:13 am    Post subject: Re: Query about unfinished drywall in garages in US Reply with quote

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A better option in a garage are FRP....fiber reinforced plastic....wall panels. We use them in factories all the time. They have nice rubber strip joints. They make it easy to literally wash the walls if you need to. You can put them in place of sheetrock or do like many do and put them over sheetrock with construction adhesive.

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FRP panels are available in Class A and Class C fire ratings FRP panels meet the fire safety standards. They are an excellent choice for commercial kitchens, garages, and restaurants as they can contain flames and smoke.


Depending on Texture, thickness etc....these can range from ~$25 to $45 per 4' x 8' sheet.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 1:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Query about unfinished drywall in garages in US Reply with quote

A better option in a garage are FRP....fiber reinforced plastic....wall panels. We use them in factories all the time. They have nice rubber strip joints. They make it easy to literally wash the walls if you need to. You can put them in place of sheetrock or do like many do and put them over sheetrock with construction adhesive.

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FRP panels are available in Class A and Class C fire ratings FRP panels meet the fire safety standards. They are an excellent choice for commercial kitchens, garages, and restaurants as they can contain flames and smoke.


Depending on Texture, thickness etc....these can range from ~$25 to $45 per 4' x 8' sheet.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 1:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Query about unfinished drywall in garages in US Reply with quote

Garages in the US are usually sheet rocked, but hardly ever painted. A pet peeve of mine. People just don’t care. Mine only has pegboard on the outside walls. The ceiling and shared walls are dry walled and painted. And if you ever watch a house flipping show, the garage is never shown. Unless the turn it into living space. My stairway for the basement was dry walled and not painted. I painted it before I had my first big party.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 12:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Query about unfinished drywall in garages in US Reply with quote

Xevin wrote:
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I could be wrong but I believe in Arizona the roof of the garage must be drywalled, even if there's no living area above it.

On my old house (Built in the 1970s) it was drywalled but the house had a small work area in the back of the garage and part of it was open to the "attic" for storage. When we sold the house, the realtor said we had to close up the hole or it would be noted on the inspection as a safety issue and we would have to fix it anyway.


Everett, you said roof of garage. Do you mean ceiling?

Roof meaning, drywall up near the roof shingles or probably tiles in your area.


Yes, ceiling, not the roof. I use those interchangeably sometimes, not sure why.
I will correct my post above

Yes, the roofs here are usually asphalt shingles or tiles
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