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kidvintage
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Ian
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 Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:41 am Post subject: Re: Anybody have any suggestions?--A life's project! |
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Everything has been sold to one person.
God Bless
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Mark Evans
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:30 am Post subject: Re: Anybody have any suggestions?--A life's project! |
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Sorry to hear of your loss.
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emersonbiggins
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: Anybody have any suggestions?--A life's project! |
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Sorry and sad to hear the news.
Prayers to the family. |
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ach60 
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Location: Santa Maria
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:49 pm Post subject: Re: Anybody have any suggestions?--A life's project! |
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| Ian wrote: |
Lucas has passed away.
He was a friend of mine and a few of those Bugs did sell on Samba about 10 years ago. I tried to help get rid of them all, at the time, but it didn't work out. Hopefully the rest will find appreciating new owners.
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Sorry to hear about your friend Lucas. Sorry for your loss.
Do you have any idea if an estate sale of some type will happen, or information about the collection's fate.
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Ian
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:06 pm Post subject: Re: Anybody have any suggestions?--A life's project! |
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Lucas has passed away.
He was a friend of mine and a few of those Bugs did sell on Samba about 10 years ago. I tried to help get rid of them all, at the time, but it didn't work out. Hopefully the rest will find appreciating new owners.
God Speed
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Volks Wagen
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Location: Germany
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| Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: Anybody have any suggestions?--A life's project! |
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| kidvintage wrote: |
somehow you have attempted (failed) to mind-read by saying i want to pay "pennies on the dollar"????
If you bothered to read.....I have described the collection as NICE (using all caps for emphasis).Your speculation on my motivations is complete bullsh*t |
Just read your own words. You are talking the collection value down and pushing for low package deal pricing. You have bought and sold and moved 'tons' of cars, so it's likely a source of income for you if not your main business. You are pushing hard for a quick ballpark price first from the Samba community, and then from the seller (harder and more repeatedly than anyone else on this thread), but when directly asked to put your valuation out there you dodge the question. So yes of course I opine that you want to talk the stuff down to buy it cheap, which I find in bad taste given the sellers situation. Other people are sensibly proposing auctioneers, but not you. But you can of course make your 'motivations' crystal clear so that all your comments below make sense.
"The parts are NICE.....but far from rare."
"what other "must have" cars or parts are there? The multiple ROUGH 61-67 hardtop projects????? The Super Beetle steering columns??? I dont think so..... "
"The hardtop 1960's projects are nice......but pretty pedestrian and uninspiring. Maybe $1000-$2500 each?????
The parts collection is very nice.....but it would have to be sold at a huge discount from retail to do a "take all" buy. Washer fluid reservoirs and shopping carts full of used CV joints are not very fast movers..... "
I don't think an auction for this collection would have very many people "flying-in" to participate. It is just not that exciting of a stash.
"I have bought tons of cars from the East Coast and I have shipped tons of California cars to the East Coast. Not a big deal...... "
"OK...... let me be the first to throw out the question in public: How much is this collection worth as a lot? "
I hate "make offer" situations. Throw a price out so people at least know where you stand.......
"Perhaps it is better emotionally for this family to sell it all together for the "quick nickel" rather than burden the survivors with the headache, time, and effort of the "slow dime"??????"
"perhaps he should just come up with a number that he is comfortable with and throw it out there. Then people can (quickly) decide if they want to pursue it or not."
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Asking people what they think the value is makes me a "vulture", "ignoranus", and somehow you have attempted (failed) to mind-read by saying i want to pay "pennies on the dollar"????
Go play with your 1973 Super Beetle  and stop ASSuming things you know absolutely nothing about.
If you bothered to read.....I have described the collection as NICE (using all caps for emphasis).
Your speculation on my motivations is complete bullsh*t |
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ZENVWDRIVER
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:28 am Post subject: Re: Anybody have any suggestions?--A life's project! |
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Wonder what the rush is anyway... why is everyone is such a big rush to do everything - this sellers strength is gunna come from his patience. |
did anyone take the time to READ his ad in the link? he's a young guy that has stage 4 colon cancer hence the need to sell, and is trying to do so before he dies. so, there is NO time to wait. in a perfet world he would beat it, but it sounds from his blog/ad that this is the end for him  |
... did not see that - is a game changer, for sure 
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EverettB
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:14 am Post subject: Re: Anybody have any suggestions?--A life's project! |
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| TDCTDI wrote: |
| Hopefully they received an acceptable offer, but they probably got tired of the hundreds if not thousands of offers of "$500 for this one" or "I need this part" or "I'll give you $10,000 for all of it". |
As expected, he got a lot of "I want car XYZ" (meaning the early Convertible) to the ad.
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:22 am Post subject: Re: Anybody have any suggestions?--A life's project! |
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| ZENVWDRIVER wrote: |
Wonder what the rush is anyway... why is everyone is such a big rush to do everything - this sellers strength is gunna come from his patience. |
did anyone take the time to READ his ad in the link? he's a young guy that has stage 4 colon cancer hence the need to sell, and is trying to do so before he dies. so, there is NO time to wait. in a perfet world he would beat it, but it sounds from his blog/ad that this is the end for him
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| Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
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| Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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ZENVWDRIVER
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:10 am Post subject: Re: Anybody have any suggestions?--A life's project! |
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| ach60 wrote: |
My Prayers for the OP
What I see is 19 or 20 Bugs in a hut, let’s say I was in the business of buyn&selln.
I offer the guy $64,000, I transport, store and sell all this inventory in 6 months
My breakeven point is $168,500(I know this because I sat down and wasted 2 hours running the numbers)
"I'm not paying to clean up your mess"
Is what a buddy told a guy when we were looking at buying his "collection"
It seemed like an asshole statement at the time, but it turns out to be a cold hard fact.
Even if I offered the guy $1000 each and he accepted, my breakeven point would still be $128,000.
So in all honesty this collection will go for cents on the dollar, at auction compared to the worth of the collection.
But it is the most effective means of cleaning up someone's estate.
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/01/business/ray-lambrecht-collector-of-chevrolets-is-dead-at-96.html
Yvette VanDerBrink of VanDerBrink Auctions House total changed the landscape for disposing of peoples hords.
Prior to this business model, a local farm or estate auction houses,for the last 100 years, would come in to your estate,
spend a day or two to inventory, advertise locally, and then sell your stuff.
Anything left behind of scrap value was sold as scrap, and the rest hauled to a landfill.
VanDerBrink Auctions changed the marketing and the increased the scope of the venue to include On-Line Bidding, and 21st Century Marketing.
Call up an Auction House that deals in estates, and have them liquidate the collection this Summer/Fall.
All that being said, If I’d seen this post in 2004, I would have advised the OP to take all the cars out of the hut.
Wash, clean out the interior, and photograph the car, being careful to get 6 good shots, 4 exterior, 2 interior, well focused, good lighting.
Put all the cars back in the hut, lock it up tight.
Set up an advertisement for each car in it’s own ad, set a reasonable price for each car, photos and what you know if anything about the car.
Once a week, post 2 or 3 cars only, next week two drop the price on the car(s) that didn’t sell, repeat until they sell.
Sell the same 2 or 3 cars only using the same information, but using another site, like auto trader, or craigslist.
Let the buyers that show up, walk through your parts too, and sell what you can, the stuff has no value to you, so don’t get greedy on price.
Overtime each of these cars would have sold, or have been recycled, the same for the parts,
but 14 years later you wouldn’t still be trying to figure out what to do about Dad’s stuff. |
... nothing there, looks that great... if I inherited all that, i'd be in no rush to sell anything... would make it a lifetime game and just have fun. Wonder what the rush is anyway... why is everyone is such a big rush to do everything - this sellers strength is gunna come from his patience.
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TDCTDI
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:41 am Post subject: Re: Anybody have any suggestions?--A life's project! |
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Hopefully they received an acceptable offer, but they probably got tired of the hundreds if not thousands of offers of "$500 for this one" or "I need this part" or "I'll give you $10,000 for all of it".
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EverettB
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hazetguy
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: Anybody have any suggestions?--A life's project! |
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| Mark Evans wrote: |
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and their website is pretty much gone and simply says:
Thank you all for your concern and kind letters--we have been touched by the support we have received in a difficult time. Luke's bugs are no longer available for purchase.
So who knows what that really means.  |
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Mark Evans
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:09 am Post subject: Re: Anybody have any suggestions?--A life's project! |
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Ad has been deleted...
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vwracerdave
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| Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: Anybody have any suggestions?--A life's project! |
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Read the webpage https://www.lukesbugs.com/. It clearly states the surviving family has no interest in VW's and wants to sell the entire collection of cars & parts as one single sale to one buyer. The family has no interest in selling anything sereratly and simply want the entire collection gone.
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iowegian
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:13 pm Post subject: Re: Anybody have any suggestions?--A life's project! |
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| I have been to a VanderBrink auction, and she got a large crowd and good money at that one, but this sale might not be big enough for her these days. |
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Skim
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: Anybody have any suggestions?--A life's project! |
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| Manfred58sc wrote: |
| X2 on the above post. |
X3
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| Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:00 am Post subject: Re: Anybody have any suggestions?--A life's project! |
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X2 on the above post.
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