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OiOiOi Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2004 Posts: 602 Location: Millersville, Maryland
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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woooooo! Got the title to it! I can't wait till I actualy have the car |
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Fowvay Samba Member

Joined: June 06, 2004 Posts: 316 Location: Cleveland Ohio
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 3:50 am Post subject: |
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I use the ultra crude but highly effective method of checking for rust on the heater channels and floor pans. I use a hammer and screw driver and check it every inch along the way. If it goes thru the channel or I hear a lot of dust falling inside of the channel I look at the next one.
I don't mind replacing a floor pan as they are pretty damn easy to do even in your driveway as long as you have some basic welding skills. However the heater channel is a major P.I.T.A. to align properly and requires mucho work.
If the owner won't let me check the pan and the channels I also walk away. Its just not worth my time and money to take a chance that they are right with out checking.
Tom aka Fowvay _________________ My 13.98@104mph New Beetle "Pomelo" | My 1970 Bug "Oscar" |
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iceman Samba Member

Joined: December 29, 2002 Posts: 40 Location: Orlando, Florida
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for that info Bill.
OiOiOi, practice makes perfect on the shifting, one day you will be able to do it blind folded. I have to drive a semi with 8 gears through busy city streets delivering ice all day and have to pay more attention to the insane drivers and don't pay no attention to shifting gears. It all comes natural to you.
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OiOiOi Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2004 Posts: 602 Location: Millersville, Maryland
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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I'd love if someone taught me, sadly, you live across the country. First Goal: learn stick shift  |
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bill may Samba Member

Joined: August 27, 2003 Posts: 14160 Location: san diego,ca
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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check tire pressure. uneven tire pressure will do this. dragging brakes usually if brakes are on or being applied. do not run more than 18-20 in fronts and 26-28 in rear tires. more pressure will cause rough ride,bad handling/cornering,braking and etc. i would love to teach you to drive your 67.. i have been driving beetles since august 1965.. raced,street and off road. 3 feet of snow,ice driving schools put on by bmw club of america,auto cross,sand west coast to east coast... |
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bill may Samba Member

Joined: August 27, 2003 Posts: 14160 Location: san diego,ca
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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hey Iceman- 117 422 504 thru 117 505 826 janurary 1967 is yours... any 67 questions on 67 ask me. |
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iceman Samba Member

Joined: December 29, 2002 Posts: 40 Location: Orlando, Florida
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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I can't remember the commercial that said, you can't just have one. I have setting in my 2 car garage a 67 beetle, 72 ghia vert and the wife's 73 beetle vert, and to put the iceing on the cake, my 2001 toyota tundra and wifes 2001 Suburban, set out in the cold wishing they could be in the garage. I am all for a 67 only forum. I had a 64 beetle( and not knocking any other years) that I put alot of money into, but was never satisfied with it and sold it and only had the ghia, until I found the 67. Good luck on the find OiOiOi and Bill, since your lending your services on birthdates, what's my 67's B-day- 117437298. Thanks for info.
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OiOiOi Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2004 Posts: 602 Location: Millersville, Maryland
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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I do know what a heater channel is now. I reasearched them. I got the car I wanted. It runs and drives, but it still needs work, I want to learn this car and make it mine. I already have a daily driver, this is for fun, a car that I can learn and love. It does have rust. I don't know of the heater channals are rusty, if they are, they are. I know it's expensive to fix. But if I don't fix it...who will? These cars are special and disapearing, I'd hate to see this little car I've fallen in love with get chopped up, so I'll sacrifice some money to save it. |
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porschebug911 Samba Member
Joined: November 29, 2004 Posts: 15 Location: Raleigh NC
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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I'm going to be the parade rain.
I think you should know what the heater channels are before you buy one. I may not be the most trusting soul around but I wouldn't depend on the seller to tell me everything that is wrong with the car he's trying to get rid of. The less rust the better. Patients and knowledge is more dependable than luck. Rust is cancer.
Then again... My reasoning for buying a bug is for a project car. I don't need a car. I'm looking for a foundation to build a bug that I may keep for the rest of my life. If I needed a car tomorrow and didn't care if it was in the junk yard in 2 years my attitude might be different. Heater channels and floor pans can't be cheap if your paying someone to do the work.
Anyway... I am not an expert, I just started looking myself.
There is some guess work going into this response so please correct and forgive me if I'm wrong.
The heater channels are the beams that run under the doors from the rear of the frame to the front. They also get the heat from the heat exchangers to the front of the car so it can warm your toes in the winter. I think it is safe to say they are structural ducts. If they rot out completely the car will split in two like Herbie did at the end of the big race where his rear end came in first and the front end came in second.
If rust causes the structure to start failing the first place it would be noticed would be in the doors not closing correctly.
Am I close? |
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ScrapJunkie (O\U|U/O)

Joined: March 17, 2004 Posts: 3977 Location: Hutchinson, Kansas
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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OiOiOi wrote: |
Is that difficult? |
I would take the car to a shop for an alignment, you can easily adjust the brake shoes yourself at home. _________________ (O\U|U/O) Top Vw (o\UU/o) |
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OiOiOi Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2004 Posts: 602 Location: Millersville, Maryland
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Is that difficult? |
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ScrapJunkie (O\U|U/O)

Joined: March 17, 2004 Posts: 3977 Location: Hutchinson, Kansas
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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OiOiOi wrote: |
When your driving the car and let go of the steering wheel it vears to the left. Is that normal? How is it normally fixed? |
It needs an alignment, and/or brakes are dragging, and need adjusted. _________________ (O\U|U/O) Top Vw (o\UU/o) |
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OiOiOi Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2004 Posts: 602 Location: Millersville, Maryland
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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When your driving the car and let go of the steering wheel it vears to the left. Is that normal? How is it normally fixed? |
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bill may Samba Member

Joined: August 27, 2003 Posts: 14160 Location: san diego,ca
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 8:43 am Post subject: |
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knt=== 117 363 980-117 422 503 built december 1966.. |
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OiOiOi Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2004 Posts: 602 Location: Millersville, Maryland
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:40 am Post subject: |
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thanks  |
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ScrapJunkie (O\U|U/O)

Joined: March 17, 2004 Posts: 3977 Location: Hutchinson, Kansas
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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Congratulations. After all of this you finally got a Vw! Good to hear. _________________ (O\U|U/O) Top Vw (o\UU/o) |
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OiOiOi Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2004 Posts: 602 Location: Millersville, Maryland
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I love it, I feel in love with it the moment we rounded the corner and I saw it's little butt sticking out. I guess that's a bad way to buy cars, but I'm in this for the long hall.
I think he was planning on cutting them out and replacing them. I'm not sure what look I am after yet. I just want to see it, hug it, and figure out what it really needs before I decide it's future. My goal is to get it running and de-rusted before I make any disitions. I'd like to get it painted someday, because it was used as a "practice" car for people learning how to paint. The rust is bubbling up in a few places. |
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kn4kt Samba Member

Joined: May 29, 2003 Posts: 96 Location: Nashville, Tn
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Bill,
When was mine built....haven't got the birth certificate yet. SN117364408. A 67 only forum would be nice.
Thanks,
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abdon Samba Member
Joined: February 20, 2004 Posts: 575 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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OiOiOi wrote: |
She's alllll mine now The owner is going to fix the floor pans and in a month she's mine. |
What exactly is wrong with the floor pans, and how exaclty is the current owner going to fix them? Valid questions considering that there are all sorts of quickie solutions for 'fixing' floor pans, some more damaging than others. Also, while you fix some problems it is always best to go the extra mile and strip/coat everything around. An option could be to ask for a discount and dealt with the floor pans yourself.
What kind of look are you after? I got a set of stock rims for that year stashed in the garage. |
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Kim in Tulsa Samba Member

Joined: November 20, 2004 Posts: 264 Location: ummm.....
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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OiOiOi wrote: |
It's this one.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=82879
I can't wait till it's sitting in the drive way It needs some rust work, and probably a little engine work to get it running really well, but the breaks were good and we got to drive it around the block. I'm thrilled. |
I love it! I just bought my six year old one that looks just LIKE it! A 1967, blue and everything!
OK, it's a toy...but it looks JUST like this one! Very detailed! Paid $1.99 for it! I know it's a 1967, because it says so on the bottom.
Congratulations! You're so lucky! |
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