36 HP muffler question

[cppilot1]

I read in one of the "Barn Find Threads", that a 1960 muffler on a 36 HP engine is tilted slightly upwards and will hit the notches on the rear apron of a 56-59. Is this true? and if so, is there a fix.

Thanks

[RareAir]

Never heard of a 1960-only 36hp muffler and/or rear apron before
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1959 Typ 265
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1966 Typ 151
1966 Typ 241

[GüteAndTite]

i have a 60 only muffler

-has coffee can vw logo sides
-flared heater box pipes
- its cadmium plated -not simply painted

the exhaust tips actually point lower , due to the 1960 only trans mount being below the torsion tube in effect tiltiing the drivetrain 2 degrees forward and improving the handling for 1960 beetles. 61 was 40hp, so a different muffler after 60 making a 60 muffler a 1 year only deal. this change causes a stock official original VW 1959 and earlier muffler to hit the apron if installed on a 1960. (im sure if this is encountered the OG service bulletin way woul dbe to wack them down with a rubber mallet - LOL)

using a 1960 muffler on a 59 and earlier chassis will have the tips hanging lower than original but not really noticeable and not a problem like the opposite.

My guess for currently available aftermarket reproduction exhausts is that they emulate the 1960 exhaust since they are universal . im sure when vw offered available replacements, they only offered the 1960 style (no more splayed heater box tubes mufflers would have been available as they were adapted with a new muffler clamp kit- VW still practices this as ive found with my new beetle)

as for the rear apron it is the same as always, no change here for 1960, or 61,62,63 either
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[60ragtop]

yes it was true, but it has to be a really old muffler for this to happen as they didn't make that muffler for very long before they started making a more universal muffler,IIRC, that split the difference so it would fit all.
What I did on one was to heat up the tail pipe flange and gently bend it to where it needed to be.

[cppilot1]

Thank you all, I feel better now. I'm in for the 60 36 HP

[808OvalGreasemonkey]

With my 36 hp NOS repo muffler,the "flared" J -pipe tubes made it so you have to use the clamp kit with the doughnut/2 piece clamp/bolts & nuts.........BUT the clamp would NOT fit since the clamp would HIT the heater box so I had to modify the flared end and use the OG style flat 36HP style clamps.
All the mufflers I see for sale in the classifieds have the "flared" ends,and it is rare to find the tubes with the slits in them for the OG flat clamp style.
I don't know how guys are putting these on without the 2 piece clamp hitting the heater box!

[GüteAndTite]

[808OvalGreasemonkey]

That is what I did! I used a socket on the inside and A CUTOFF WHEEL to cut the slits.PITA though.........small kine exhaust leaks at the slits