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MarkZee
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 Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:26 pm Post subject: rail weight |
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| about what will the average 4 seat sand rail weigh. how much on front and how much weight in rear - with vw suspension and trans and engine. |
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The Phil
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It depends. Width, length. Ball joint, link pin. size of wheels, size of tires. size of gas tank. weight of seats. Also, a dune car, or a desert car. If the rear end is stock irs, swing, or if it has extended arms.
This rail weighs in at about 2500 lbs. It has a twin turbo northstar engine, full suspension fox king shocks, 5x5 rear end, huge a arm front end. this one is a desert car.
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SamT
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| Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:01 am Post subject: |
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| VW style, stock suspension will be in tHe 1200-1600 range. |
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Mal evolent
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my 2 seat rail, 1200 CC, split case trans with RGBs and 35" rear tires, weighed 1300 with me in it. lady at the truck stop laughed herself silly while weighing it. I could pick the front end up by myself, two people could hold it up.
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MarkZee
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| Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:58 pm Post subject: rail weight |
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| To be more precise: I was thinking / asking about the basic older type rail with longer arms to give about 10 inch travel. 235-15 tires. A mild mannered machine for a family expedition car. From the replies, it sounds like I coud expect a weight of around 1500. |
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SamT
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| if it is 1500, front will be 500- rear will be 1000+ Depending on rear trailing arms. |
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Mr. Unpopular
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A friend of mine has a Hi-Jumper frame stretched to 120" wb and widened 7" (room for 4 suspension seats). He runs coilovers all around, bus trans, Honda V6, fiberglass hood and sides, aluminum roof, no spare. He said his weighs 1900 lbs drivable.
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manther
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| My 2 seater ball join bug trans stock arms weighed 1200# |
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yfz450
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| A friend of mine has a Hi-Jumper frame stretched to 120" wb and widened 7" (room for 4 suspension seats). He runs coilovers all around, bus trans, Honda V6, fiberglass hood and sides, aluminum roof, no spare. He said his weighs 1900 lbs drivable. |
sounds nice |
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Mr. Unpopular
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| yfz450 wrote: |
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| A friend of mine has a Hi-Jumper frame stretched to 120" wb and widened 7" (room for 4 suspension seats). He runs coilovers all around, bus trans, Honda V6, fiberglass hood and sides, aluminum roof, no spare. He said his weighs 1900 lbs drivable. |
sounds nice |
Yeah, it works very well where we ride. I'm building a pretty similar buggy but with a 4 cylinder GM ecotec which I want to turbocharge later on.
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1350 as it sits fueled up and with the paddles .Vw powered alm case.
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Mr. Unpopular
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That's a sweet looking buggy!
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lostinbaja
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It doesn't have VW suspension but weighs in at 790lbs. ready to go.
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Wow lostinbaja! I thought my 2 seater was light at 804 pounds. 790 is really light for a 4 seater.
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lostinbaja
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| Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:30 am Post subject: Re: Wow |
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It doesn't have VW suspension but weighs in at 790lbs. ready to go.
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That's a great looking buggy! What kind of frame is that? |
It's a short cage Appletree frame built from .055 chromoly. I put the bare minimum on the buggy. It does have coil over rear suspension as well.
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