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bige311 Samba Member
Joined: August 06, 2010 Posts: 51 Location: Phx
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:24 pm Post subject: Automatic to Manual Conversion |
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Hey guys Im looking at a 78 Automatic Bay Window Bus. I have owned a 68 Type 3 Automatic and it was a terrible driving experience. I would most likely want to swap this to manual transmission.
Can this be done?
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Erik _________________ '64 Notchback N |
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VDubTech Samba Member

Joined: December 29, 2002 Posts: 9156 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Given an endless budget, anything is possible. Why don't you give it a chance before you decide to tear out a very nice transmission? I loved my automatic Bus, never had a problem with it. _________________ First Trip in the RustyBus:
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danfromsyr Samba Member

Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 15388 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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while they are both only 3speeds
the 76+ bay automatics are a very differant AT than the 68+ T-III (and 73-75 Bay AT)
VW & AUdi used this same AT from 76 to 92 in ALL applications with success. even with the $30k+ Audi 5cyl turbos.. (well with 1 added clutch & spider gear to handle the torque)
but it's a fairly robust AT, and makes driving the van quite enjoyable vs rowing thru the gears. least in city traffic. _________________
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TheFonz Samba Member

Joined: July 04, 2009 Posts: 157 Location: NJ
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jamesdagg Samba Member

Joined: August 18, 2007 Posts: 3364 Location: B.C.Canada
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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I scrapped a bus that had been converted. I may still have the custom shift rod extension and bracket. It did not appear to have many changes other than the rod.
If interested send me a PM.
jim _________________ '72 FI Westy
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busdaddy Samba Member

Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 52901 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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Drive it a while first, you may just discover you like it and it's not worth the effort Drive someone elses standard bus too for a comparison. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
Please don't PM technical questions, ask your problem in public so everyone can play along. If you think it's too stupid post it here
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blue77bay Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2006 Posts: 631 Location: Brisvegas Australia
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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x all the above ,late bay a/t's are good ,however having said that and i do agree wholeheartedly with the above my 77 is a converted a/t as i do a lot of towing and i felt for MY application a man trans to be more applicable .As for the conversion if you can find a really rusted or badly crashed shitter and grab the bits ,there is just assembly work and cleaning ,assuming you have a good 091 and thats if its going in front of a 2lt _________________ I like hammers. Lots of hammers. Hammers and me go way back.
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brandt Samba Member

Joined: April 27, 2004 Posts: 364 Location: S. Utah
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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Years ago I had a manual 78 camper and my buddy had an automatic 78 camper. Going up steep grades once and I thought I could pass him... There was no difference. We were neck in neck for many miles. |
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bige311 Samba Member
Joined: August 06, 2010 Posts: 51 Location: Phx
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the input guys I will def give the AT a shot! _________________ '64 Notchback N |
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Juancho Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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One of my favorite bays was a/t. They are actually very fun to drive, and those old vw auto trans are completely bullet proof. No way it's worth converting. |
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John Revolver Samba Member

Joined: December 19, 2009 Posts: 110 Location: Surrey BC
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:59 am Post subject: |
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My 77 westy is an auto. I love it. Totally and completely. _________________ -1977 westfalia
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hansie Samba Member

Joined: August 29, 2007 Posts: 477 Location: Beach Lake, PA
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:38 am Post subject: |
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One of our buses is a 75 auto , we go every where with it. Yes it is a little bit of a slug on the hill but I love to drive it. I got it for my better half , she can't drive stick. _________________ Karl Bower |
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dr.bones Samba Member

Joined: August 27, 2007 Posts: 105 Location: jasper,Ga
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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:49 pm Post subject: the edge of the cliff |
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i 'll say it im not affraid to do this conversion in fact im in the middle of doing it right now,i bought a better bus than mine.the bus started life as a 79 adventurewagen 2.0 automatic.the trans and engine were already gone,so i had my rusty 73 bay.the only thing not there is the clutch tube,the old one is just tacked.this body was perfect,no rusts,no floor rot,h4 converted front headlights.i am gonna sell the trans selector,cable because of the rarety of these items.hey in life you have to do what ya have to do.when im finished this thing will be awesome. |
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Air_Cooled_Nut Samba Member

Joined: March 27, 2004 Posts: 3069 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:19 pm Post subject: Re: Automatic to Manual Conversion |
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bige311 wrote: |
Hey guys Im looking at a 78 Automatic Bay Window Bus. I have owned a 68 Type 3 Automatic and it was a terrible driving experience. I would most likely want to swap this to manual transmission.
Can this be done?
Thanks
Erik |
Having owned an automatic T3 I can say with confidence that yours wasn't properly tuned. Mine shifted smoother than melted butter. My wife said it shifted better than her 2002 Passat. _________________ Toby http://www.aircoolednut.com/
Did I mention that I'm an original Darksider?
'72 VW Squareback, 2007cc, GB 5-speed, rag top; '76 VW Riviera Penthouse Sundowner 2.0L; 2015 Audi S5 Cabby w/Stage II APR; '06 Ducati Sport Classic 1000; '14 Ducati Diavel Strada
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Collie Samba Member

Joined: April 03, 2006 Posts: 1285 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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bige311 wrote: |
Thanks for the input guys I will def give the AT a shot! |
You will not be disappointed (assuming its a well running AT)....I had a '79 auto for about a decade and I prefer it over a 4spd any day of the week. |
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dr.bones Samba Member

Joined: August 27, 2007 Posts: 105 Location: jasper,Ga
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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my 4 speed manual was working fine before i took it out of the old 73 rusty bay,i just wanted to avoid all the metal work involved.my engine only has 35 miles,it has everything for torque and power and all a vw needs to be road worthy.i will say the 002 trans needed a nose cone hockey stick and bushing because it was leaking and the nose cone was cracked because of the front hanger mount failed,other than that everything running gear was good.the automatic stuff will go on here forsale shortly and the aftermarket cruise control unit.i love manuals anyways and always will. |
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dr.bones Samba Member

Joined: August 27, 2007 Posts: 105 Location: jasper,Ga
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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:11 am Post subject: yo purist and non believers |
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alright its done,cut out the clutch tube and it was easy as hell,second cut out bracket under floor pan for the shifter out of the old rusty bay,grafted it in and welded using good ol spot welds,so now its a manual 1979 Volkswagen adventurewagen.man for some reason people on here are afraid to do this conversion and I ask y? its so damn straight forward,it even looks factory from outside to inside.i tell ya if you can't find a manual bus and you find a 95% rust free body like I did,go for it,don't be afraid to try something outside the box.i will put pics of it later. |
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