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808OvalGreasemonkey Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2010 Posts: 763 Location: Oahu
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:14 pm Post subject: Crappy fuel filters..you know which ones! |
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We all know and have probably used the GENERIC inline plastic see-through filter,the ones that have the yellowish paper element and the stepped inlet nipples,1/4" then stepped to 5/16th's.
These have been around forever,and many different manufacturers copycat this filter.
I have noticed that a large majority of these filters are now labled "made in Israel",and have seen these on Mahle/Hengst/Mann/Fram/Wix,etc.etc......so basically these outmoded filters are not something worth ACTUALLY MANUFACTURING by those names above,and others,so they simply buy them and brand them with a different logo,and more than likely these are all from the same factory (?).
Anyway...I am posting this because I recently encountered 2 Hengst "brand" filters having problems I have never seen before with this type filter. I have 2 on my engine,with one mounted horizontally,and looking at the filter element will reveal that it is "sagging" downwards and the top edge of the filter is pulling away from the end cap and allowing the filter to migrate downwards.
The other filter is mounted in a vertical position,and the element has completely detached,and fallen down away from the end cap entirely. You can see that they bond the filter with a black "glue",and the glue lost its bond with the end cap.
I can only guess this is because of ethanol gas? Or the glue/manufacturing is subpar?
Either way,I checked out a Fram as a replacment and yep,same "made in israel"filter. The filter was THE EXACT SAME.
There are not many 1/4" filters out there,compared to 5/16"s,so I ended up buying a "Taiwan" copy of the same filter until I source a better option. Maybe the Taiwan one will be better? Maybe the filter won't detach,but will it leak? It is all a crapshoot! 
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Glenn  Mr. 010

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Splitdog Samba Split Personality

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808OvalGreasemonkey Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2010 Posts: 763 Location: Oahu
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Now THAT is a damn fuel filter!! But back to (my) reality with cheap,disposable filters,I went to Carquest and a guy brought out a nice,1/4" see-thrue filter and it is larger in diameter,and it is made in Russia!!!
I guess the 1/4" filter is such a odd filter,they are made in distant lands!  |
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nick wharton2 Samba Member

Joined: November 20, 2003 Posts: 41 Location: Modesto Ca
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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LOL, you're looking at his oil filter. The fuel filter is above the trans |
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VenturaGhia Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2012 Posts: 119 Location: Ventura
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Glenn  Mr. 010

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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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nick wharton2 wrote: |
LOL, you're looking at his oil filter. The fuel filter is above the trans |
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jfats808 Samba Member

Joined: December 10, 2007 Posts: 5022 Location: oahu hawaii
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Ive been using Robs Fast fab AN6 fuel filters on my two engines and on two customers ones. I really like his products. Well made, fuel filters are cleanable and reuseable, and look nice to boot. Shame I dont see it on his site anymore. Worth the buy, even at 40bucks. Red, Black, Blue, Silver anodized.
I found it : http://www.fastfabonline.com/carburetion.html
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mcmscott Samba Member
Joined: March 12, 2010 Posts: 4929 Location: sanger ca
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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jfats808 wrote: |
Ive been using Robs Fast fab AN6 fuel filters on my two engines and on two customers ones. I really like his products. Well made, fuel filters are cleanable and reuseable, and look nice to boot. Shame I dont see it on his site anymore. Worth the buy, even at 40bucks. Red, Black, Blue, Silver anodized. |
Remember this is the samba, more than three dollars for a filter that should last at least three years is entirely too much,
Myself, I agree with you and will continue to use a quality filter even at 80 bucks |
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modok Samba Member

Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 27674 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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The metal cased filters such as used on modern cars can work fine. The problem is you go looking for a old school filter and get lawnmower quality, tell them you have a ford or BMW to get a filter worth using |
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Bones 53 Samba Member
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mark tucker Samba Member

Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23950 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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might just be over due for a filter change,yup there are a lot of companys that do that with just about any thing.kinda like my kids car,it says chevy, but it is also a suzuki and also a daewoo, and who knows what else or who else branded it for thier own company, we live in a global market,I never know where my banana's are coming from these days.
I try to change those filters every year but sometimes it's two years before you have a chance to think of what you want for lunch. I get mine from west marine, they used to carry a big clear filter that size inlet...not any more, so I have 3 of those. |
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saw2 Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2008 Posts: 321 Location: nw Oregon
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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Napa gold 3031 or Wix 33031 same filter. Metal filter 1/4" inlet,outlet. About $3.00 or $4.00 a piece. |
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gitchesum Samba Member

Joined: November 10, 2003 Posts: 515 Location: North Cali
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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nick wharton2 Samba Member

Joined: November 20, 2003 Posts: 41 Location: Modesto Ca
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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forget that! I think its cool he rested the whole car on the MAC tool box! |
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mark tucker Samba Member

Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23950 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:45 am Post subject: |
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many moons ago I used only the steel filters,I wouldnt have a plastic or glass filter(still wont have a glass one), but after getting a load of shit in 2 cars from the same station cloging both cars,nomore,only see through on mine so I can see whats happening and if there is shit in the tank/line/filter. |
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stevensj13 Samba Member
Joined: October 03, 2011 Posts: 715 Location: Willow Spring, NC and Saugerties, NY
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I hate the glass, unscrewable take apart filters with the cleanable element. heres why. I was drifting around a dirt pile off road in my sand rail I used to have and the filter CAME APART AND SPRAY GAS EVERYWHERE. Almost a fire. Luckily I smelled gas n shut it down. Put the filter back together and cruised back to the truck. That was it for the day. Now I run a 1 piece 1/4 inch metal filter under the gas tank in my Baja and soon I'm putting one in my 73 Street bug (shes not road ready yet. _________________ Current: '73 standard (yellow) '76 standard (rust/gold )
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slalombuggy Samba Member

Joined: July 17, 2010 Posts: 9332 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:55 am Post subject: |
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I personally know of 3 cars that had major engine fires from glass filter BREAKING. A '69 GT 500, a '71 window van, and an Allison Daytona buggy. The Mustang needed harnesses and paint, the bus and the Allison were a loss.... No glass for me, I use a BIG steel can Fram filter on the buggy. Not sure of the number just went through the filter cabinet and grabbed on that fit. My 57 fuel system is all AN -6 fittings and I'm using a Russel aluminum filter before the pump up front.
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Glenn  Mr. 010

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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:13 am Post subject: |
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Sure if you have lines with AN fittings. _________________ Glenn
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