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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:03 pm    Post subject: VW logo man Reply with quote

does the vw man logo have a name and are there any legal issues using it on a t shirt with a club name? any info will be appreciated
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Bubblehead and VWoA owns the copyright. Use it and you'll receive a letter from their legal department.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep but they're not as bad as Disney
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok thanks the bobble head is probably not the way to go
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

to jason try and get a hold of this guy
bbspdstr he sold me one and porsche hubcaps too
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The president of Vintage Volkswagen of America Central Coast chapter uses it at all the time at club meets:

http://www.centralcoastvwclub.com/galleries/pb/pismosurfcontest10012.jpg
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can keep it low key and fly under radar, you might not run into problems. I just wouldn't put it on a Club website. Big companies dont really go after one person, but if you had thousand's printed up. The would want to re-capture the lost revenue. IF your broke as a joke then would go after the company that printed the copyrighted material.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JasonBaker wrote:
If you can keep it low key and fly under radar, you might not run into problems. I just wouldn't put it on a Club website. Big companies dont really go after one person, but if you had thousand's printed up. The would want to re-capture the lost revenue. IF your broke as a joke then would go after the company that printed the copyrighted material.


Companies take the protection of intellectual property very seriously no matter how much money the offender has or does not have.

What you are advising (people) in general to do is illegal and can result in nasty litigation and sky high fines.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gary wrote:

Companies take the protection of intellectual property very seriously no matter how much money the offender has or does not have.

What you are advising (people) in general to do is illegal and can result in nasty litigation and sky high fines.


Point understood, Your attitude in general slightly reminds of those petty arguments with my wife. Sometimes she is right.

But I meant if you had a group of 5-10 friends that formed a small club and didn't promote it with a website the copyright holder might not come after you. I can make a sign and hang it in my basement invite friends over for beers and VWOA will never know.

Disclaimer- To all dont take my samba post's as legal advice.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gary wrote:
JasonBaker wrote:
If you can keep it low key and fly under radar, you might not run into problems. I just wouldn't put it on a Club website. Big companies dont really go after one person, but if you had thousand's printed up. The would want to re-capture the lost revenue. IF your broke as a joke then would go after the company that printed the copyrighted material.


Companies take the protection of intellectual property very seriously no matter how much money the offender has or does not have.

What you are advising (people) in general to do is illegal and can result in nasty litigation and sky high fines.


I guess you could modify a original logo so that it's not the same, but close. That's how those VW hubcaps are made, the VW is stamped different, or the little VW guy could be made without the VW printed inside like Airhead parts uses. Too bad though, a lot of free advertising out there keeping the VW name alive.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JasonBaker wrote:
Big companies dont really go after one person


Not always true... I know of 2 guys in the VW world that were harassed at different times for some stuff they made because someone saw it at a swap meet.
They both did not make very many of the particular item.

**Note that I'm being a little obscure because they still make illegal stuff all the time to sell at swap meets and I don't want to rat them out.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard that Harley Davidson is just as hardassed as VW is about their logo's
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JasonBaker wrote:
Big companies dont really go after one person


That's what these people thought
http://www.riaa.com/newsitem.php?news_year_filter=...D8337A9B90
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depending on the club, some are licensed to use the VW logos etc., as long as they are non-profit and are not using the logo to make money. They can use it on the club website etc. The process can be done, but if you are trying to use this as an avenue to make money off their logo, prepare to be raped while they toss sand in.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have that as a tattoo will VW make you cut it out of your skin ?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you have that as a tattoo will VW make you cut it out of your skin ?


They can make your life miserable and could have the court order you to modify it or even have it covered.
Can I legally get myself tattooed with a pro sports team's logo?

Ever watch a TV broadcast that includes the blurb explaining that the show is the property of Such & Such Corporation and cannot be rebroadcast without the expressed written permission...? How about the warnings on DVDs?

There have been cases where people in a neighborhood would have movie night in someone's garage with a giant TV and either money was collected to pay for food for everyone or everyone brought pot-luck. The entertainment companies caught wind of it and would slam the hosts with Cease and Desist orders.

A company or individual who has an image trademarked or secured with a copyright has every legal right to protect the use and reproduction of that image. Call it stupid if you want, but the law is the law.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is what VW has to say about it:

http://www.vwtrademarks.com/vw.aspx?file=vwguide.htm
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cusser wrote:
If you have that as a tattoo will VW make you cut it out of your skin ?


Many of the better tattoo shops that know what's best for themselves will refuse a customer's request to tattoo anything that is a licensed logo etc.
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