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brookshay
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 Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:09 am Post subject: JB Weld on drain plug!! |
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Subject says it all, trying to figure out options here.
85 Westy original 1.9.
Any thoughts or suggestions?
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PDXWesty
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:13 am Post subject: |
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What's the problem? Stripped case, stripped plug, trying to remove jb weld from the drain plug? I think you do need more description on what you are asking.
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brookshay
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My apologies. The plug has been jb welded in and cannot remove to drain oil.
I'm guessing there was a reason behind the jb weld but can't get past it to see what it is.
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borninabus 
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:18 am Post subject: |
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one would have to assume that the case is stripped.
do what ever it takes to remove the drain plug and then (dependent on how much damage you do) either use a longer drain plug or a timesert in the case.
not the end of the world, by any means 
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borninabus
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and by 'do what ever it takes' i mean put a big breaker bar on it and break it loose 
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brookshay
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:21 am Post subject: |
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Ok that's encouraging. The folks that I think did it are looking to replace the pan, which I haven't been able to locate a replacement for?
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PDXWesty
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:30 am Post subject: |
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There is no drain pan on a WBX. The drain plug is threaded right into the engine case. Try not to do too much damage or you'll be replacing the whole engine. Maybe a little heat would help?
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Terry Kay
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Get a torch with a small tip & heat up JUST the plug.
Get it hot, and back it out of the engine.
What your mission is to get the epoxy soft enough to be able to spin the plug out.
Don't go crazy here or you'll have aluminum rolling off of the engine block.
Obviously there is a problem with the hole for the drain plug--be prepared to be repairing that with an oversized self tapping plug, or a thread insert.
Some hobbiest did that engine a big favor .
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Wildthings
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| Never tried using one of those oil suction setups, but maybe that would be a better option than dealing with the plug. |
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brookshay
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Many thanks for the help and suggestions. I am very thankfully going to be working on this with someone who knows much more about it than I do. Excited to learn through this one.
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MrBuelterman
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You could leave the drain plug alone and use one of these,sucking the oil up through the dip stick, for your oil changes.
Could save you from having to deal with the chance of killing the engine case.
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You could leave the drain plug alone and use one of these,sucking the oil up through the dip stick, for your oil changes.
Could save you from having to deal with the chance of killing the engine case. |
that's the solution...
I would do the same |
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Corwyn
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You could leave the drain plug alone and use one of these,sucking the oil up through the dip stick, for your oil changes.
Could save you from having to deal with the chance of killing the engine case. |
that's the solution...
I would do the same |
It's what I use to change the oil in my boat's diesel engine; the drain plug is just a bitch to get to. Maybe change your filter more often too.
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vweggie
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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There's a second plug that you can drain oil with it uses a 6mm allen key if I remember correctly. My previous van had a stripped plug so I used the other plug to drain the oil. It takes a bit long because of the smaller diameter hole.
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