Can someone school me on EZ30 engines?

[Sir Sam]

Doing a bit of research trying to decide what I need to look for in a donor car. While its very cheap to get an engine and other donor parts at a junkyard I don't really want to run a 2.2 or 2.5 in my syncro. I wouldn't mind going SVX but its a hard enough to find engine that I would prefer to go with something that is more common these days.

I've been watching auctions recently and donor cars are cheap, and since it saves me the hassle of finding one at a junkyard and trying to pull everything I need I'm looking at going that route.

Research so far shows that the 2000-2002 EZ30 has the single exhaust port per head, and the 03+ the three exhaust ports per head.

Neither small car or RMW offer a 3 port exhaust, is this a deal killer enough to look for an older engine? I don't really want to spend a bunch of time fabricating my own headers or looking for someone else to build an exhaust, the bolt on solutions for the single header seem nice.

Is there a year cutoff for the electronics for running as standalone? IE would a 2009 EZ30 be an engine only donor requiring an older ECU and wiring harness to run?

So far I'm planning on KEP adapter and RMW engine carrier since I have these components already.
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'91 Carat Westy

87' Syncro + '87 Westy conversion coming soon

[insyncro]

First off, H6s are not $3000 Subaru conversions.

I do NOT recommend using an adapter plate and 228mm clutch pack with an H6.
An RJES with the 240mm clutch pack and flywheel is.

The triple port exhaust is not a problem, the complete system runs about $3500 when built properly.

Wiring isn't an issue either if you are willing to use aftermarket management.

2000-2004 EZ30d engines have cast intakes, if the engine you are looking at has a plastic intake, it is NOT a 30d.

Small Car has the most parts for the 30d conversion.

Derek Drew has a PRIVATE group to support the 30d in Yahoo Groups.
You have to apply to be included.
This keeps out the banter and BS.

[insyncro]

Derek's Vanapolooza Build Thread :

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=440872&highlight=infestation

[wcdennis]

Seems like 2006-07 was the transition to can bus, but this opens up more possibilities for engine choices:
http://www.subarugears.com/subatronics/index.html

[insyncro]

All CAN BUS EZ engines have triple port exhausts.
I have the exhaust systems for these.
I am not selling them but can assist in having them made if one wants.
Big dollars

[Sir Sam]

[Sir Sam]

[insyncro]

Call RMW and SC for off the shelf stuff.

I use custom parts designed by Eric Abercrombie, who sold the entire H6 design lot to SC.
They have sold all of Eric's parts SC no longer supports the later engines.

There are many versions of the EZ platform available.
If you are looking at USDM, that will be one set of years that work...JDM, a totally different story.
The wiring needs to be USDM if you want it to work properly with mixed and matched parts.

I have a ton of all this stuff I have collected and pulled from donor vehicles I purchased so I would have matching engines, harnesses, ECUs and the rest.
No interest in ala carte sales at this point.
Complete turnkey, that would work, but it sounds like you want to do it yourself.

The link and yahoo group are advised for DIY research and trouble shooting.

[Sir Sam]

Ok so I guess that means the later 6 port EZ is out.

Dylan can you confirm the Model year the 6 port exhaust models started?

If I did choose to have a custom exhaust made up what year does CANBUS kick in and make the ECU harder to deal with? 2007? Or was it earlier? 2007 is a watershed year for canbus across the board much like 1996 was for obdii, but like with obdii some vehicles got it a little earlier than others. With 2005 being the first year for the new body of outback I can see how it much have gotten the canbus setup a little sooner.
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'91 Carat Westy

87' Syncro + '87 Westy conversion coming soon

[Sir Sam]

Update: pulled a 2003 EZ30 at a junkyard, got ECU and wiring but couldn't find the fuel pump controller.

So the Question:

Is the fuel pump controller needed? From looking at the wiring diagrams it seems like as soon as key is on the fuel pump controller gets power and does it thing.

Is the fuel pump controller needed or will a relay for powering the vanagon fuel pump be fine?

If its needed where the heck is the fuel pump controller located in a 2003 outback? Small car website says right rear of vehicle but I couldn't for the life of me find it. Other internet searches haven't helped me figure it out, lots of talk about it but I haven't figured where it is.
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'91 Carat Westy

87' Syncro + '87 Westy conversion coming soon

[Sir Sam]

Also. I see mention of security system in there, but it doesn't seem tied to the ECU, if the wiring just bypass's the security module will all of it be ok or is there anything else the ECU needs to read from the security system?
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'91 Carat Westy

87' Syncro + '87 Westy conversion coming soon

[brokengun]

I don't have the answers to your questions unfortunately Sam, but I did want to recommend the Subaru Six Cylinder VW van group on Facebook. It's pretty active and often has recommendations for where to get the odd parts/pieces to put together one of these projects.

Seems to me like the EZ30 of that vintage is the way to go as far as parts availability and converting the wiring harness over (pre-CANBUS).
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1984 Vanagon Adventurewagen with EJ22 conversion
1975 Beetle - Big whole in the floorboards
1974 Westy - Will be on the road one day!
1973 Bus - sold

[Sir Sam]

[brokengun]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/SubieSixVwVAN/

That should work for you (I hope)!
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1984 Vanagon Adventurewagen with EJ22 conversion
1975 Beetle - Big whole in the floorboards
1974 Westy - Will be on the road one day!
1973 Bus - sold