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johnboy715 Samba Member

Joined: January 30, 2008 Posts: 226 Location: Shawano, Wisconsin
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:43 pm Post subject: Best quality bumpers |
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Looking to buy bumpers and brackets for my 1969 bug. Wolfsburg has them listed dad triple chrome. Jbugs also has triple chrome bumpers for lower cost. Are which ones are better quality or are they the same? |
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Zundfolge1432  Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Best quality bumpers |
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go with WW |
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andk5591 Samba Member

Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 16803 Location: State College, PA
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: Best quality bumpers |
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Let me 'splain....Most of the aftermarket bumpers have really poor plating and they start to rust quickly. I am only familiar with WW early bumpers - but what they do is use a Brazilian or similar bumper (not as heavy as OEM) and have them plated themselves. I have a set on my 65 that have been on the car for 9 years or so....Not a spec of rust. Have seen other brands that are 2 years old with surface rust....
"Triple plating" is simply as description of the standard chrome plating process. Has no indication of the quality. _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone 1914. Ex wifes car.
Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
"John's car" 64 VW woodie - The first ever
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Ex-wifes car.
66 bug project - Real patina & Suby conversion
There's more, but not keeping them... |
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TX-73 Samba Member

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johnboy715 Samba Member

Joined: January 30, 2008 Posts: 226 Location: Shawano, Wisconsin
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: Best quality bumpers |
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So the WW bumpers are not Brazilian? Are they as
Heavy as originals? They list them as restoration quality. |
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green1303 Samba Member

Joined: February 04, 2014 Posts: 748 Location: Alexandria, VA
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: Best quality bumpers |
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Memminger makes the only correct reproduction of the 1968-1973 bumpers in 2 mm steel with good chrome. They cost around $500 each after you subtract the 19% German VAT and add shipping to the U.S. Germany does not tax its own exports.
http://www.feine-cabrios.de/produktion/karosserie-blechteile/#stossstangen
This may be the same bumper, but you would have to ask CSP to be sure.
http://www.csp-shop.com/cgi-bin/cshop2/front/shop_...0&all=
http://www.csp-shop.com/cgi-bin/cshop2/front/shop_...0&all=
I think that WW takes a Brazilian Belfex bumper and re-chromes it in the U.S., in which case it would be 1.5 mm thick, but I have not seen one to measure it with a caliper. In any event, it's a decent alternative for about half the price. You can also occasionally find NOS or have an OG bumper re-chromed. I would not consider any other reproduction bumpers on the market due to thin metal, poor chrome, or both. _________________ 1973 green Super Beetle
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gt1953 Samba Member

Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13948 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:02 am Post subject: Re: Best quality bumpers |
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Couple of years ago someone wacked the corner of my front bumper. I caught them. Well his insurance company paid for the most expensive bumper I could find. Yes Wolfburg West is the place. Get that one.
http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=113707103DWW _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
72 type 1
72 Squareback
({59 Euro bug, 62, 63, 67, 68, 69, 73 type ones 68 & 69 type two, 68 Ghia all sold}) |
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Old n' slow Samba Member

Joined: October 29, 2012 Posts: 619 Location: Western Maryland
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:27 am Post subject: Re: Best quality bumpers |
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About 10 years ago when I did my restoration I went with the cheapest I could find ( I think it was Mid America junk) I was on a tight, raising 5 kids, budget......go with the best you can afford but also wax the bumpers regularly and keep the back / insides painted.......after 10 years and at least 3 of those years parked on the street, my thin cheapo chrome bumpers still look like new. _________________ Currently own : 1969 Beetle w/ 1600cc, Single Port, Solex 30 PICT 2, Dist. 113 905 205 T, stock exhaust.
All my daily drivers gone but not forgotten;
1964(sunroof)1967 & (2)1968 Beetles , 1968 Squareback , 1963 (23 window )Deluxe Sunroof Bus , 1969 Westphalia camper, 1974 Dasher , 1985 Vanagon , (2) 1981 Rabbit Diesels & a 1991 Jetta Diesel . |
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nx6h Samba Member
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johnboy715 Samba Member

Joined: January 30, 2008 Posts: 226 Location: Shawano, Wisconsin
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:42 am Post subject: Re: Best quality bumpers |
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Thanks. Will be getting WW ones. |
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andk5591 Samba Member

Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 16803 Location: State College, PA
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:42 am Post subject: Re: Best quality bumpers |
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johnboy715 wrote: |
So the WW bumpers are not Brazilian? Are they as
Heavy as originals? They list them as restoration quality. |
Did you read what I posted? _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone 1914. Ex wifes car.
Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
"John's car" 64 VW woodie - The first ever
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Ex-wifes car.
66 bug project - Real patina & Suby conversion
There's more, but not keeping them... |
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STEAK_BUG72 Samba Member

Joined: June 24, 2016 Posts: 106 Location: BARRIE, ONT
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: Best quality bumpers |
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I just ordered front and rear bumpers for my 72 super from CIP1. They were on sale for $$160 each. I'll let you know how they look when they come in this week. They will be better than what's on the car right now.
Thanks
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baldessariclan Samba Member

Joined: October 14, 2016 Posts: 2055 Location: Wichita, KS
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:25 am Post subject: Re: Best quality bumpers |
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Was researching replacement bumper options a while back (due to unfortunate run-in with some felons fleeing police: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=670551&highlight=), and thought I'd share what I've found out so far.
-- Evidently the original German stock VW Beetle bumpers were made out of 2.0 mm thick steel, and weighed approximately 10.25 lb. each.
-- The bumpers made in Brazil a little later on were supposedly made from 1.5 mm thick steel, and weighed about 7.5 lb. apiece.
-- The aftermarket bumpers commonly available today (made in China, maybe - ?) are supposedly usually made from 1.0 mm thick steel, and weighing about 5.5 lb. each.
-- When I talked to the folks at WW, they said that their bumpers were made from steel about "30% thicker" than the commonly available aftermarket bumpers available nowadays (so say 1.3 mm thick - ?), and weigh in at 6.2 lb. each.
One thing to keep in mind with regards to these numbers is that the bending stiffness of steel sheet generally varies with the cube of its thickness. So, for example, the original stock 2.0 mm thick bumpers would be about 8X stronger / more resistant to bending than the 1.0 mm thick bumpers commonly available nowadays. |
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Busstom Samba Member

Joined: November 23, 2014 Posts: 4579 Location: San Jose, CA
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nx6h Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:49 pm Post subject: Re: Best quality bumpers |
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i bought stainless europas from harrinton and they fitted perfectly and still look good but i have heard mixed reports about fit . Perhaps i was just lucky  |
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ROCKOROD71 Samba Member

Joined: January 18, 2012 Posts: 2770 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:08 pm Post subject: Re: Best quality bumpers |
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A few years back I found an OG bumper with the over-riders in pretty good shape, rusty but straight. I sand blasted it and painted it black. All in it cost me about $100. About 2 months later an old lady backed into me at a stop light and ruined my new old bumper. However, at the time MAM was selling "oem thickness" bumpers in bare steel for $99. I bought one. Compared to the OG bumper I had, it was indeed similar thickness and weight. I primed and painted that one and its still on the car today.
If one were to be painting or chroming a bumper themselves I would suggest this route if they or another supplier still has these bare steel bumpers. I wish I knew or took note of the manufacturer at the time.
My rear bumper, which I've had forever, was a cheapo aftermarket chrome bumper which rusted up pretty badly and I blasted and painted that too. Still on the car and, not even joking, you can bend it by hand. Total garbage.
TL;DR- buy good bumpers.
I still have the OG painted front bumper if anyone wants one. Needs some straightening...  _________________ 1971 STD BEETLE- DD-1st car, 1st love. keepin' it stock! 1600DP, Solex 34-3 Mexi Bosch SVDA Dist NOW w/POINTS
1977 WESTY "KrustyKamper" 2L FI
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jitbba Samba Member

Joined: August 20, 2013 Posts: 203 Location: Schulenburg
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: Best quality bumpers |
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I have the stainless on my bug and have been very pleased! 3 years now and still look great. I had no issues with fitment, guess I was lucky too _________________ My other ride is a Zildjian |
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Busstom Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:42 pm Post subject: Re: Best quality bumpers |
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Perhaps most of the fitment issues are with the earlier, multi-piece bumpers with overriders and "towel bars." Again, there's not much that can go wrong with the '68-on blades as far as fit. |
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STEAK_BUG72 Samba Member

Joined: June 24, 2016 Posts: 106 Location: BARRIE, ONT
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: Best quality bumpers |
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Well, I got the new bumpers in yesterday, they look great. When I took the digital caliper to them, they measure out at 1.1 mm. The bumpers that were on the car were 1.8mm. they sure are light. Hopefully they hold up.
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green1303 Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: Best quality bumpers |
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Was there a manufacturer's stamp or label on the new bumpers? _________________ 1973 green Super Beetle |
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