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cancelja Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:42 am Post subject: Amazon Chinese Carburators |
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Do those cheap Amazon Chinese carburators work properly?? |
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist

Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13686 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:49 am Post subject: Re: Amazon Chinese Carburators |
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cancelja wrote: |
Do those cheap Amazon Chinese carburators work properly?? |
Two words you used here should answer your question. "Cheap" and "Chinese".  _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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wayne1230cars Samba Member

Joined: April 05, 2010 Posts: 2699 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:01 am Post subject: Re: Amazon Chinese Carburators |
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cancelja wrote: |
Do those cheap Amazon Chinese carburators work properly?? |
You mean like this one? https://www.amazon.com/Carburetor-Volkswagen-1968-...merReviews
Some suggest that they have had success with these carburetors by disassembling, cleaning and rebuilding a brand NEW carb. I once made the mistake of buying one. I could never get it to adjust right. Works well as a doorstop though.
I ended up buying a rebuilt 34 PCT 3 from Tim at VolkzBitz..Absolutely satisfied. Throttle bushings redone and no more vacuum leaks. _________________ 1960 beetle
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PuddleRainbow Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2018 Posts: 294 Location: The Dirtiest Of Jersey
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:22 am Post subject: Re: Amazon Chinese Carburators |
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Yes. Put 2500+ trouble free miles on an Amazon EMPI. |
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vamram  Samba Member

Joined: March 08, 2012 Posts: 8070 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:29 am Post subject: Re: Amazon Chinese Carburators |
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The only one I've ever had luck w/is an Empi I installed in my '74 last fall. After a year, I've put about 9k trouble-free miles on it, w/only minor adjustments after the initial tune-up. Not bad for less than $100 shipped.
I tried a Euromax 7 years ago...pure CRAP. It's a piggy bank/conversation piece/paper weight on my desk at work. I would assume the same about any no-name chinese ones. _________________ "Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition
to put moral chains upon their own appetites. -Edmund Burke
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Zundfolge1432  Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:05 am Post subject: Re: Amazon Chinese Carburators |
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Anybody old enough that remembers how they performed back in the day can tell the difference. Anybody with a background or training in mechanics should be able to tell you why OEM was and still is better quality. Cut a corner here use a cheap copy there is not going to work as well, sorry no fee lunch
What we see here is just part of a larger trend where folks use cheap knockoff parts, carburetors, distributor, fuel pump, even sheet metal then wonder why shit doesn’t line up or why their chinese pump is throwing fuel into the crankcase. Again if you want it to perform and last buy quality once. Often you’ll find that it’s cheaper in the long run with less headaches. |
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Glenn  Mr. 010

Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 79803 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:12 am Post subject: Re: Amazon Chinese Carburators |
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Buying cheap and substandard parts only encourages the manufactures to cheapen other parts.
It tells them that the VW community will accept crap. _________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
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bugbyte Samba Member

Joined: November 12, 2005 Posts: 500 Location: Palm Bay, Florida
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runamoc  Samba Member

Joined: June 19, 2006 Posts: 6230 Location: 37.5N 77.1W
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:19 am Post subject: Re: Amazon Chinese Carburators |
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cheap Amazon Chinese carburators work properly |
I bought this cheap 30 PICT-1 carburetor from EBay. Works great on my stock 1500cc single port.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-VW-Beetle-Bug-B...2062024300 _________________ Daily driver: '69 Baja owned 45 yrs - Plan B: '72 Ghia
Yard Art: 2 Sandrails
Outback: '69 Ghia - '68,'69,'70,'72 Beetle - '84 Scirocco, GTI - Pair of '02 Golfs- '80 Rabbit Diesel
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vamram  Samba Member

Joined: March 08, 2012 Posts: 8070 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:24 am Post subject: Re: Amazon Chinese Carburators |
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I have an original 34-3 rebuilt by Volkbitz that worked great for 5 years or so. It's still fine, I pulled it because I had stripped one of the mounting studs. I fully intended to re-install it, bought this one as a temporary fix while I figured out how to fix that stud (yes, i'm not the most mechanically savvy out-of-the-box and will often stare at something for a VERY long time before trying to resolve it.). I've long-since fixed the stud, but have kept the Empi in place, since it's running so well, as much out of curiosity as anything else. I'm curious to see when and why it will die.
That said, I have an original 34-4 on order w/Tim that will grace the engine I rebuilt from my '73 Super. _________________ "Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition
to put moral chains upon their own appetites. -Edmund Burke
“If something cannot go on forever, it will stop.”
Stop Russian-Soviet Aggression!!
'74 Super 9/16 - present, in refurb process.
'73 Super - 6/18 - Present - Daily Driver!
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baldessariclan Samba Member

Joined: October 14, 2016 Posts: 2108 Location: Wichita, KS
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:35 am Post subject: Re: Amazon Chinese Carburators |
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I'd say it sounds like about a 50-50 "crap shoot" nowadays -- some people report having luck with those units, others not so much.
If you "roll the dice" on the ~$100 EMPI/aftermarket carburetor bet and lose the first time, then you'll have to lay down at least another ~$100 to "play again"...
With Volkzbitz, it's about $200-$250 for a rebuilt unit (depending on carb type), but you'll basically win on that "bet" every time, since he has a well-deserved reputation for doing great quality work, plus offers a 3-year guarantee to boot.
In the end, the choice mainly depends on your "tolerance for risk", along with what your spare time is worth to you... _________________ 1971 Standard Beetle — fairly stock / driver
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gt1953 Samba Member

Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13948 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 6:59 am Post subject: Re: Amazon Chinese Carburators |
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When it come to carbs the German ones are the ones to use. Try finding the stock dual carbs for a type 3. Tim at Volksbiz rebuilt mine, upon arrival installed them, put fuel to them, engine fired right up. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
72 type 1
72 Squareback
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heimlich  VWNOS.com

Joined: November 20, 2016 Posts: 7512 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:21 am Post subject: Re: Amazon Chinese Carburators |
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Redline is one company that takes the Chinese carbs and rebuilds them. _________________ www.vwnos.com [email protected]
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curtp07 Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2007 Posts: 874 Location: Mass
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:10 am Post subject: Re: Amazon Chinese Carburators |
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Tim. Only way to go. _________________ Subaru |
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daven Samba Member
Joined: January 13, 2009 Posts: 356 Location: Dayton OH
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:22 am Post subject: Re: Amazon Chinese Carburators |
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Send it to Tim - you won't regret it. |
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heimlich  VWNOS.com

Joined: November 20, 2016 Posts: 7512 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:35 am Post subject: Re: Amazon Chinese Carburators |
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Plenty of other folks out there besides Tim. _________________ www.vwnos.com [email protected]
Classic Brands. Classic Quality.
Not all parts are made the same. NOS OE/OEM parts made mainly in West Germany, Early Germany, and Early Brazil are where VW produced the best quality parts and best fitting products.
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Restored Distributors Available (<--Click here) |
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Xevin  Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:48 am Post subject: Re: Amazon Chinese Carburators |
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It’s a fair question to ask. Good on you to research. Maybe they do work great. My thought, is if a $70 carb performed properly and was reliable for years. We’d all know about it because people would be posting how great they are. The $100 EMPI reviews are mixed. The VolkzBitz rebuilt carb reviews are consistently great. Choose wisely. _________________ Keep on Busin'
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BenJAMin Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:34 am Post subject: Re: Amazon Chinese Carburators |
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Never bought one for a VW but in the Citroen 2CV community the ebay ones from "Sherryberg" have proven to work well. These cars also used Solex and I've put about 20k miles on my Chinese carb with success. |
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist

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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:59 pm Post subject: Re: Amazon Chinese Carburators |
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Zundfolge1432 wrote: |
Anybody old enough that remembers how they performed back in the day can tell the difference. Anybody with a background or training in mechanics should be able to tell you why OEM was and still is better quality. Cut a corner here use a cheap copy there is not going to work as well, sorry no fee lunch
What we see here is just part of a larger trend where folks use cheap knockoff parts, carburetors, distributor, fuel pump, even sheet metal then wonder why shit doesn’t line up or why their chinese pump is throwing fuel into the crankcase. Again if you want it to perform and last buy quality once. Often you’ll find that it’s cheaper in the long run with less headaches. |
This^^
The sad truth is that a lot of current classic VW owners don't remember or know how well these VW's ran back when they were new or newish and still had their original parts mounted. They "assume" their VW "runs great" where someone who knows how they should run would get in and go "it runs like crap"..
Clearly there's economic factors involved for all of us when we have to purchase parts. Some folks are frugal and buy the cheapest part they can find. While others have no choice but to purchase the lease costly part. We get it. However, sometimes it wiser to save up and "cry once" and by the best vs. purchasing a suspect, low quality parts that may or may not fit, work or last. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
Follow me on instagram @sparxwerksllc
40+ years of VW repair, and VW parts and vehicle restoration experience.
The Samba member since 2004.
**Now rebuilding throttle bodies for VW's and Porsche's**
**Restored German Bosch distributors for sale or I can restore yours**
**Restored German Pierburg fuel pumps for sale or I can restore yours**
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wayne1230cars Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: Amazon Chinese Carburators |
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wcfvw69 wrote: |
Zundfolge1432 wrote: |
Anybody old enough that remembers how they performed back in the day can tell the difference. Anybody with a background or training in mechanics should be able to tell you why OEM was and still is better quality. Cut a corner here use a cheap copy there is not going to work as well, sorry no fee lunch
What we see here is just part of a larger trend where folks use cheap knockoff parts, carburetors, distributor, fuel pump, even sheet metal then wonder why shit doesn’t line up or why their chinese pump is throwing fuel into the crankcase. Again if you want it to perform and last buy quality once. Often you’ll find that it’s cheaper in the long run with less headaches. |
This^^
The sad truth is that a lot of current classic VW owners don't remember or know how well these VW's ran back when they were new or newish and still had their original parts mounted. They "assume" their VW "runs great" where someone who knows how they should run would get in and go "it runs like crap"..
Clearly there's economic factors involved for all of us when we have to purchase parts. Some folks are frugal and buy the cheapest part they can find. While others have no choice but to purchase the lease costly part. We get it. However, sometimes it wiser to save up and "cry once" and by the best vs. purchasing a suspect, low quality parts that may or may not fit, work or last. |
Good observations. I was recently at a cruise night. There was a beautiful bug convertible there and the owner was justifiably proud of it. I was impressed until he started the car and drove away. I would not have trusted that car to drive to the corner store. It did not run well at all. Who knows how it braked and steered.
I know how well these cars can and should run and drive. I remember picking up my brand new 1974 green Love Bug at the dealership in November 1974. -$2895 CDN. It had 6 miles on the odometer. I drove that car across Canada and the USA with total confidence. It had good heat and ran like a top. Other than a coil, that crapped out at 20,000 miles, that car never let me down. I did change the tires out to radials. That made quite a difference. Loved that car. _________________ 1960 beetle
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