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VWporscheGT3 Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2006 Posts: 2174 Location: Gardnerville, NV
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:54 am Post subject: Re: ICON VW pistons |
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And the person who took the early photos with spirolocs was promptly kicked in the nuts
personally i loathe spiro's ... but everyone has a preference right? _________________ If you have any questions about Forged ICON 4032 VW pistons just shoot me a line. |
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clockworkbox Samba Member

Joined: July 12, 2020 Posts: 471 Location: Williamsport, PA
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:56 am Post subject: Re: ICON VW pistons |
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VWporscheGT3 wrote: |
And the person who took the early photos with spirolocs was promptly kicked in the nuts
personally i loathe spiro's ... but everyone has a preference right? |
This is why I asked  _________________ '69 Beetle (pieces)
Learning the hard way is still learning... |
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Brian_e  Samba Member

Joined: July 28, 2009 Posts: 3965 Location: Rapid City, South Dakota
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:18 am Post subject: Re: ICON VW pistons |
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VWporscheGT3 wrote: |
personally i loathe spiro's ... but everyone has a preference right? |
We could probably start a spiro haters support group for those of us with fat, stiff fingers, and bad eyesight.
Brian _________________ So more or less the lazier and stupider you want to be, the nicer quality parts you need to buy.
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modok Samba Member

Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 27658 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:16 pm Post subject: Re: ICON VW pistons |
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I did a 350 last week with double spirolocks on the old pistons and the new
I am going to put a charge on the bill for the time and suffering to remove and replace 32 of these evil inventions. |
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Brian_e  Samba Member

Joined: July 28, 2009 Posts: 3965 Location: Rapid City, South Dakota
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: ICON VW pistons |
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The new forged 94mm C height pistons are here!!
431 grams with the pin
26.8mm compression height
Nice thin 1.2, 1.2, 3.0 rings included
4032 Alloy
Coated tops
I did a mock up a while back with these. I used a new STD deck CB aluminum case, CB 86mm crank, STD AA 94mm cylinders, and CB 5.7 H-beam rods, and everything went together perfectly, and it had a near perfect deck height.
These will be the new easy way to build a stock width, long rod 2387cc. I have 3 sets left, and 3 more on the way, then Trevor's first batch will be about gone. He said he is planning another batch as well.
_________________ So more or less the lazier and stupider you want to be, the nicer quality parts you need to buy.
-Modok
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b-man Samba Member

Joined: May 20, 2008 Posts: 638 Location: So Cal
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: ICON VW pistons |
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Sign me up…..  _________________ 1956 Dove Blue Panel
1966 Velvet Green Single Cab
1957 L41 Black Oval Window Beetle |
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VWporscheGT3 Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2006 Posts: 2174 Location: Gardnerville, NV
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 2:27 pm Post subject: Re: ICON VW pistons |
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Brian is correct got another run already planned, but it will likely be April or late march before available.
85.5's are also in , same thing they are going quickly. so i have another run planned to be finished around the same time.
Thank you all for your support! _________________ If you have any questions about Forged ICON 4032 VW pistons just shoot me a line. |
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chrisflstf Samba Member

Joined: February 10, 2004 Posts: 4029 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: ICON VW pistons |
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What is the purpose of the small round hole, near where the wrist pins clips go?
Nice looking stuff!  |
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VWporscheGT3 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: ICON VW pistons |
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chrisflstf wrote: |
What is the purpose of the small round hole, near where the wrist pins clips go?
Nice looking stuff!  |
On sidemill? thats a lockring digout , so when its time to pull it apart its not a big pain in the buttocks _________________ If you have any questions about Forged ICON 4032 VW pistons just shoot me a line. |
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dubman67 Samba Member

Joined: April 10, 2003 Posts: 299 Location: Big Sky Country
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RickS Samba Member
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b-man Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: ICON VW pistons |
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dubman67 wrote: |
Where can we get a set?
Internet search comes up with nothing |
https://type-emotorsports.com/collections/pistons-...rcooled-vw
Just bought a set myself.  _________________ 1956 Dove Blue Panel
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Brian_e  Samba Member

Joined: July 28, 2009 Posts: 3965 Location: Rapid City, South Dakota
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:13 pm Post subject: Re: ICON VW pistons |
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Here are some quick pics of the adorable little 85.5 forged Icon's. These are going to be the hot ticket for the 1600cc Baja classes.
They have 1.5, 1.5, and 4.0 rings.
_________________ So more or less the lazier and stupider you want to be, the nicer quality parts you need to buy.
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efi67vw Samba Member

Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 564 Location: las vegas, nv usa
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txoval Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2004 Posts: 3839 Location: The Woodlands, TX
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Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:01 pm Post subject: Re: ICON VW pistons |
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Damn good price, especially compared the CSP version of a similar piston.
CSP version is lighter but also $1000 |
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2stroke Samba Member

Joined: July 15, 2003 Posts: 108
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: ICON VW pistons |
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Is a steel top ring available for the 94mm that isn't plasma moly? |
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VWporscheGT3 Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2006 Posts: 2174 Location: Gardnerville, NV
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: ICON VW pistons |
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2stroke wrote: |
Is a steel top ring available for the 94mm that isn't plasma moly? |
you are probably not going to like this answer.... but i would give my buddy Kevin Studaker a call at total seal. i know for a fact that have options for all current bores in a Steel top ring. and yes , you dont have to buy a kit , you can buy 4 individual top rings in steel _________________ If you have any questions about Forged ICON 4032 VW pistons just shoot me a line. |
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chrisflstf Samba Member

Joined: February 10, 2004 Posts: 4029 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 6:37 pm Post subject: Re: ICON VW pistons |
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How long on a mill does it take to carve out one of these? |
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VWporscheGT3 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:02 am Post subject: Re: ICON VW pistons |
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I wish it were that simple.
since we own our own forging presses it starts off with cutting the bars to length for the right sized puck. they get heated to the pliable state and then stuck in the forging presses.... puck gets squeezed into shape and comes out the the press, and excess flashing is cut off .
from there it goes to its first machining process , skirt ream , where it gets the locating ring machined into the bottom of the forging so it can be held firmly off of one firm datum. then it gets rough pinbored, after that than it gets all its drills , oil drainbacks, pin oiler intersects etc.
from there it finally goes to the lathe and gets its rough shape and rings grooves. after that the underside gets milled to the correct thickness and shape. (there are going to be a lot of after thats here) side mills get put in after the internal milling, after that the pin bore gets its final bore and finish to within .0001" , annular oilers, broach and lockring grooves (as well as the digout ) all get done on about 3 machines.
after this it goes to skirt mill , to give the skirt base its final shape (slipper tip , etc) from there it then goes to the annodizing department, where the crown and top ring groove is given a military grade type 3 annodizing. after that it goes to the skirt finish machine , which puts the carefully selected barrel shape and ellipse to the skirt that works optimally on boxer style engines. from there is gets the skirt coating (M42) that you see on the skirts and finally to the laser etching machine to put all the markings on the pistons.
after all of that each piston is weighed to one another and boxed.
since we run many different types of pistons , whether it is a standard cast , hyper-eutectic cast , 4032 or 2618 forgings, it takes a while to run through the plant. Silvo-lite, KB, and ICONS are all run through the same factory. start to finish, i would say there is roughly 45 minutes of highly specialed work that goes into each piston.
I hope that answers your question  _________________ If you have any questions about Forged ICON 4032 VW pistons just shoot me a line. |
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clockworkbox Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:29 am Post subject: Re: ICON VW pistons |
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Wow, that post makes me glad I have a set ready for my next build! Thanks for the detailed breakdown. _________________ '69 Beetle (pieces)
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