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Brian
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I was curious to see what a bay would look like with one of them bumpers. Thanks for sharing
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| Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: Off road modifications for your bus |
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I think this is the biggest tire that will fit without a lift. |
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OG Velvet
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I think this is the biggest tire that will fit without a lift. |
What size are they?
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| Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:28 pm Post subject: Re: Off road modifications for your bus |
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| forn wrote: |
I think this is the biggest tire that will fit without a lift. |
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235/75/15 on some Passat steels. |
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levi20AE
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| Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:22 am Post subject: Re: Off road modifications for your bus |
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I have been down in Mexico for a few weeks now and nearly every bus i come across has had a modified rear bumper. Mostly they tend to use stronger bumpers from other vehicles to keep their busses safe. Each year the number of busses running around down here seems to thin out, it's crazy how fast the ocean most can eat even new cars.
This front bumper was a little over the top but pretty resourceful.
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Nepenthe88
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| Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 4:25 pm Post subject: Re: Off road modifications for your bus |
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| forn wrote: |
| OG Velvet wrote: |
| forn wrote: |
I think this is the biggest tire that will fit without a lift. |
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235/75/15 on some Passat steels. |
Wow... them's some BIG tires!
I'm running 215/65/16's and I thought those were the biggest diameter / width set-up you could put on a non-lifted bus. The tire calculator site says your 235/75/15's are 1.88 inches taller and 3/4 of an inch wider than the geolanders I'm running. You must notice some rubbing at times, cause I rub just a wee little bit when I turn into or out of a steeply inclined driveway:
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tristessa
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| Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:08 pm Post subject: Re: Off road modifications for your bus |
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Offset matters for fitting wheels/tires. Check this out, ET45 Passat steelies with 235/75R15 vs your "effectively" ET29 (wheel+spacer) BMW steelies with 215/65R16:
http://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php?width=235&...29#content |
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tristessa
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| Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:38 pm Post subject: Re: Off road modifications for your bus |
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| Click on the lnk and look at the pretty pikshurz... |
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notchboy
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| Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: Off road modifications for your bus |
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So the 235/75/15's are pushing the tire more out? Or I should say the Passat rim.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:05 pm Post subject: Re: Off road modifications for your bus |
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The rim pushes the tire to the outside of the car allowing a wider tire which won't rub as much
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Brian
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:08 am Post subject: Re: Off road modifications for your bus |
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all about running 0 offset 6" wheels with your 215/75-15s. Major difference in handling with wider offset for obvious reasons.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: Off road modifications for your bus |
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| So the 235/75/15's are pushing the tire more out? Or I should say the Passat rim. |
That visualization is for 235/75R15 on ET45 Passat vs. Nepenthe's 215/65R16 on ET47 BMW with 18MM adapters (effective ET29). If he had better offset he might be able to go bigger on his 16's without rubbing. If you look at 215/75R15 on the 15x6 ET45 Passat wheels vs. 185R14 on 14x5.5 ET39 Bus wheels, the extra width on the 15x6 is almost totally tucked inward (0.3MM more poke, pfft) because of the offset difference.
http://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php?width=215&...39#content
I'm gonna pick up a 235/75R15 at Pick & Pull to play with next weekend... |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:13 pm Post subject: Re: Off road modifications for your bus |
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Some wheel spacers might get you where you need to be. Not sure how thick you can go without needing longer wheel studs, maybe 10mm. Studs need at least 6 revolutions to tighten securely.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:39 am Post subject: Re: Off road modifications for your bus |
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| forn wrote: |
I think this is the biggest tire that will fit without a lift. |
How's your Bus performance all around with that setup? Do you have any rubbing anywhere?
I like that setup, those tires look burly on a Bus...I think I'm getting past the idea of needing hubcaps in favor of that stout look...I'd really like to know more about real world performance and drawbacks. And I presume that setup resolves the concern over adequate load rating for a loaded Westy.
Thanks for sharing. |
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jokgel
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| Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: Off road modifications for your bus |
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in this time i drive 195/80/15 MT
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| Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 8:53 pm Post subject: Re: Off road modifications for your bus |
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in this time i drive 195/80/15 MT
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LivinInnaVWBus
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| Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Off road modifications for your bus |
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Lol @winter
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jokgel
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| Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 12:36 pm Post subject: Re: Off road modifications for your bus |
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beautiful old style tires . love the patterns in snow  |
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