EMPI VS. CB Disc Brake Conversion Kits

[Bklyn63]

thanks for the reply Erwinsm, what was the timken bearing number so I can go to Autozone and get two instead of the chinese ones, and were they the same exact size or were the Timken slightly smaller?

[erwinsm]

Here is the catch-I personally had to take my bearings in the store with my micrometer AND LOOK AT THE MANUFACTURE COUNTRY ON THE BOX-some had been made in canada as well- just because it is Timken does not mean it can not be made in china as well -beware. I rented the bearing race installation from Autozone as well- I hope that you are using this for installing the bearing race. Sorry I did not save the box for the part number.

[erwinsm]

I forgot to mention that I actually heated the rotor with my torch prior to pounding the bearing race in-this worked really well and also fine wet sanding of the seat with 1,000 grit sandpaper- A very important advice I forgot to mention. Hope this helps..

[HyDr0]

Well CRAP!

Ordered Empi's Front w/ 2.5 spindles and the rear. Asked the guy thats been selling / working on VW for more than 25 years what he thought, and he said their a good product. I also got a REALLY good deal on both kits.

BUT....
After reading this thread (all 9 pages) I'm spooked as to what the outcome will be.
The prices were right as I'm always lookking for the best deal but to be safe is a bit more important I think.
Should have done a bit of research before I ordered. Oh well....fingers crossed and will post out come after install.


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-Will
1961 (o\ ! /o)

[Bklyn63]

i got the entire kit installed but I am wating to press the inner bearing race in. I think for the price its a steal. Erwinsm, I took the inside measurement of the rotor..its 1.965 and the outer race is 1.980..do you think if I cool the race with some dry ice I will be able to get it pressed in with my bearing press and my race install tool?

[bluntlunchbox]

Any word on the Install moto? These kits are downright affordable and tough to avoid when shopping. Sounds like spindles should be purchased together to avoid more problems. Still not clear if the flexing was resolved but curious to see...

[Motomazzo]

HEY-YO!! I'm back! Took a little 8 month break, but hey....here I am! And wouldn't you know it; I don't have any more news to report! Sorry. Life happened and I have not touched anything since my last thread. I'm happy to report though that I am beginning work on my DUB project again. First order of business is to purchase the rear kit so I can close the system and bleed the brakes. Then again, my wife goes into surgery tomorrow so we'll see. Life can be really, uh...fun? sometimes, LOL!

I will let you guys know as I progress. I still remain objective. So far I am very happy with what I’ve seen/dealt with. May be the biggest pieces of junk I’ve ever purchased. Don’t know yet, but we’ll see!!

Moto

[Motomazzo]

[veedubfreak59]

[bluntlunchbox]

This is a great topic! Hope it works out and please post a few pics of ur setup

[pmoncayo]

Hi everyone this is my first post

I bought my EMPI disk conversion kit, installed myself, and it is working but, I have troubles with them because the disks are over-heating

I put the car in a pair of towers and tried to move the tires but they are really tight.

When I receive my kit the master cylinder was not working properly, the bore is not comming out and after an hour I decided to buy a new master cylinder it was completely normal and OEM, so I completed the installation.

I am very worried because somebody told me that may be the pinston inside the calippers are not working properly, for the same reason the master did not work in the first place, all the pieces made of rubber are too old and are useless.

So I am looking for some advise, should I have to replace or re-construct the calippers?, should I grind the pistons to get them to work?, should I throw that crap away and get me a new kit, may be a CB?

Any piece of advice would be appreciated.

Best regards!

[HyDr0]

Wish I could advise you on this w/ my own exp but I'm still waitting on my beam from AK before I can do any testing.

I have spoke to a few people about the empi kits and most are pleased with them and say they work great once you get the bugs worked out.

You should be running a dual circut master and I would try bleading them again and see if that fixes the prob.

Good Luck!
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-Will
1961 (o\ ! /o)

[s.l.c.]

Am running Empi's disc brake kits all away around and work great for me.

[pmoncayo]

I think the guy who sold the kit to me was not honest and sold me a very old stuff.... thank you for your responses I will change my master cylinder next week to the dual system and give it a try.

I will post the results...

thanks!

[hsosa1]

where are u guys buying your empi disc kits from? and what did u pay? I know 3 cars that have the empi disc brakes and all the owners told me they work and its a good deal. Ive driven one of them and the pedal doesnt feel spongy. What is a CB Disc brake kit selling for now ?
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[slowtwitch]

I bought the wide 5, rear empi brakes from Action Imports and installed a couple weeks ago. Everything went smoothly. I bled the brakes and the pedal pressure is solid. I am using braided lines all the way around. Here is a pic of how the disc lines up with the caliper.

The camera angle is off a bit, but the disc lines up just about dead center. There are no spacers between the caliper and the mount. Also, I didn't see any flexing when my son pumped the brakes. The next test is on the road, if I ever get this thing done
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pete

[DBCouper]

I just installed a set of EMPI's on the front of my 356 Porsche. Installation was a snap, no interference anywhere, and no flexing of anything.

I used the master cylinder that was included in the kit. Before installing it, I took it apart to make sure it didn't have a residual pressure check valve in it. Doesn't make sense, but it did have one in there, so I removed it.

Dave
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When in doubt, gas it!

[Bklyn63]

anyone have tricks on bleeding the systemon my 63. I did everything correctly. I'm using a dual circuit master cylinder and I installed the calipers correctly with the bleeder on top. I have a 67 reservoir with 2 lines going to the master. I still have drums in the rears.

[HyDr0]

Anyone have pictures of the disk w/ drop spindles on a LP beam?
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-Will
1961 (o\ ! /o)

[bluntlunchbox]

Well it seems like the kit overall is pretty good on the price and with dropped spindles included, it's a steal. Installing in a few weeks, pics to follow...