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Ducklips
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I just got the insulation from aircooled delivered Fri. Haven't checked it out yet, but I will and get back. It was rolled-up in a package and I need to get it warm to straighten it out.
Update: Not happy with the 5mm insulation from aircooled. It is 76 here and the insulation is cracked in many places where it was rolled-up, but gravity caused it to crease. Where there are creases there are cracks. It'll work, but will look bad. Don't know what I'll do with it. It's not pre-trimmed or has holes. For $40 I think one could do better.
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'69Custom
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Location: Ventura, California
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Just a follow up on the CIP1 tar board: stay away from it.
It sagged in March temperatures before the engine was installed. Within 2 1/2 years I had to remove the sides as they had warped to the point of resting on the end castings. The back panel is warped as far as it can go with the tabs holding it in place. |
Well that sucks, as I have my engine out now, I will searching for a good replacement soon, let me know of any GOOD tar boards. |
Since oeveedub has left us, Wolfsburg West is now the only one I'm aware of selling German Tarboard. Only $54 for the kit too.
I'm going to buy mine from them next time I pull my engine. I'm also going to buy some aluminum or stainless dress panels for the engine compartment and attach both to the firewalls. By sandwiching the tarboard, I'm going to ensure it stays put. I just need to find out how to run the wiring around, rather than through, the back panel.
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andk5591
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Can't remember who I got the last one from, but it has a checkerboard pattern embossed on it. I was sruprised when it showed up and it was rolled up instead of flat. Much more flexible that the stuff I had got before. Easier to work with. Has a slightly glossy finish. I like it.
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Vinnems
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| Think throwing some fat mat (or similar) in there would work if you used the little stabby things for holding the tar board down? |
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andk5591
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I use generic "underhood" insulation from most flaps between the tarboard and the firewall and a soundproofing material on the interior side. Works well. In fact I had used tarboard only only on my 65 and was not happy with the engine level. The next time I pulled it, I added the underhood stuff and it was very noticably quieter.
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D-Dubya Manx clone 1914. Ex wifes car.
Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
"John's car" 64 VW woodie - The first ever
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Ex-wifes car.
66 bug project - Real patina & Suby conversion
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TjdTaylor
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i dont use any :/ and i use a stinger :/ :/ i get alot of headaches 
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'69Custom
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| Think throwing some fat mat (or similar) in there would work if you used the little stabby things for holding the tar board down? |
If fat mat is anything like dynamat and account that adheres on one side, I wouldn't use it. It isn't rigid enough. The heat from the engine will likely loosen the bond and it could separate the little standby things. It would have no support at all on the sides.
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J-Gaz.
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| andk5591 wrote: |
| I use generic "underhood" insulation from most flaps between the tarboard and the firewall and a soundproofing material on the interior side. Works well. In fact I had used tarboard only only on my 65 and was not happy with the engine level. The next time I pulled it, I added the underhood stuff and it was very noticably quieter. |
Tell me more about this.
Looking to do as much as I can on the engine side.
Was also considering a 3-layer system on the motor side of the firewall:
1. Aluminum-backed butyl foam deadener/Absorber,
--> Like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TKXMPH7/?coliid=I1KIA..._lig_dp_it
2. Generic underhood insulation,
3. Stock Tarboard on top...
Has anyone done this?
What were the results?
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Chinaclipper
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| Posted: Wed May 07, 2025 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: Engine/Firewall Sound Deadener |
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I'd REALLY like some data on this subject.
I have done all the "sound deadening" stuff I can afford, and the sound level in my car cabin at 65mph is 78 dBs.
That is what I am calling "data".
What are others getting? What is working? What isn't?
Don't just say "Mine is much quieter blah blah blah after I did X", no, give me data!
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J-Gaz.
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| Posted: Wed May 07, 2025 8:43 pm Post subject: Re: Engine/Firewall Sound Deadener |
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| Chinaclipper wrote: |
I'd REALLY like some data on this subject.
I have done all the "sound deadening" stuff I can afford, and the sound level in my car cabin at 65mph is 78 dBs.
That is what I am calling "data".
What are others getting? What is working? What isn't?
Don't just say "Mine is much quieter blah blah blah after I did X", no, give me data! |
Love this - I want data as well.
I started a thread a while back where people can share their data.
Hoping people would share 'before' and 'after's
I haven't made any significant changes to the car, so I haven't updated that thread, but I will once I start back at it - maybe next winter though, as Its getting nice, and I want to drive it, not have another project... but we'll see.
Here's that thread:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=793150&highlight=
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