1776 Ready for a complete rebuild

[Alstrup]

If you want to build a 1904 out of it you need a new clutch anyway. That one wohnt hold it.
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[Murt]

Thank you for your kind comments and continued support Gentlemen
I have removed the clutch and pressure plate and have Jury Rigged the motor on my start stand. Got good oil pressure, so decided to send it.

Am I going crazy ? As I cannot hear any knocking
Not sure what my next move is ? I’m thinking hook up some fuel, exhaust back on, and light it up ?

https://youtube.com/shorts/d3mJv5VuI94?si=Jen_T65WTXsvcMbu

VS Exhaust back together, I need to get some fuel line to connect the Carbs and I'm going to try and get it started. Note to self : that wrap on the J Tubes is making me itch all over, had to shower and wash my clothes. I hate that stuff. Is it actually worth having ??
Dave

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1966 VW Beetle ‘Jules’
1967 Kombi Splitscreen ‘Barney’
2018 VW Caddy Maxi R Line
2017 Golf GTD saloon
2008 VW EOS 2.0 TFSi

[Zed999]

Have you got a stethoscope or a piece of dowel?
I just use anything to hand TBH, any old stick long enough to safely get one end on the heads or case and the other closing you ear flap bit, you know what I mean. If it's inside the engine, you'll hear it.

[Murt]

Hi @Zed999
Yes mate, totally agree. was planning on starting it, and doing that with a long screwdriver. I was taught that when I was an apprentice years ago, and guess it still holds good today.

My only concern/question would be is how long can I run the engine without the external oil cooler ? I have it set up and just the filter on it at the moment.
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1967 Kombi Splitscreen ‘Barney’
2018 VW Caddy Maxi R Line
2017 Golf GTD saloon
2008 VW EOS 2.0 TFSi

[Brian_e]

With no load, and idling, probably 5min before it even got up to temp. Just feel the dipstick once in a while. You will have plenty of time to run it and diagnose it before the oil temp becomes a problem.

Brian
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[TomWesty]

This should be interesting.
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[Murt]

Good morning Gents
Here’s the update on the 1776cc
https://youtube.com/shorts/CPWbwvt4m-w?si=xsshKR5BDlLt5WCx

I rigged up Fuel lines. She started almost straight away, and I ran her for a minute or so, and I could not hear any knock ? Before it was Very pronounced but I couldn’t hear anything.
I’m going to run her up to warmed, and monitor the oil temperature and try and listen for anything.
So, was that clutch the smoking gun ?
Dave
Edit
Warmed up and ticks over much better, checked timing, Ticking over about 800-820rpm

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1967 Kombi Splitscreen ‘Barney’
2018 VW Caddy Maxi R Line
2017 Golf GTD saloon
2008 VW EOS 2.0 TFSi

[Brian_e]

Adjust the valves, snug up the exhaust bolts, re-sync the carbs, and set the idle a little higher to950 or so. And go over the mix screws again

Then listen to it again and see what you think.

Brian
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So more or less the lazier and stupider you want to be, the nicer quality parts you need to buy.
-Modok

Narrowed beams, Drop adjustable spring plates, Bus disk brake and IRS kits.
www.type-emotorsports.com

Type E Engine Parts and Supplies
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[Murt]

Good morning Brian
Yes, and understood, cheers
Dave
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1967 Kombi Splitscreen ‘Barney’
2018 VW Caddy Maxi R Line
2017 Golf GTD saloon
2008 VW EOS 2.0 TFSi

[Murt]

So, following the advice
I have nipped up the exhaust flanges and have done the valves all set to 0.006”
Checked everything out and sent it. You will notice some smoke coming from the J Tubes that was me should have put some oil pigs onto them when taking off the rocker covers
Synced the Dellortos with the left side disconnected and connected again, got good balance on the snail, and reset idle to sit around 950rpm, as best as I could.
Things I noticed were
No Knocking like before ?
Horrible 'Roller Ball' rocker adjusters
Oil pressure sits at about 10psi at idle, rises to about 35-40 at 3000revs ?
Using my Temperature gun, I ended the test at about 185 degrees F, as I didn’t want to cook it
I’m inclined to say that I will not be needing to rebuild the engine ?
Yes, Brian, the flanges were bleeding a bit, and nipped them again after the test run

Here it is during the test
https://youtube.com/shorts/WHAXopoYEJw?si=qOXsxA6Iy1cfv1ZL
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1967 Kombi Splitscreen ‘Barney’
2018 VW Caddy Maxi R Line
2017 Golf GTD saloon
2008 VW EOS 2.0 TFSi

[Brian_e]

Swap the adjusters out for elephant feet, cut the rockers back, redo your rocker geometry with good aluminum push rods, and go drive the thing till the snow flys.

With the minimal amount of miles, it might still needs the rings seated quick and hard, so keep the stand running to a minimum.

Brian
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So more or less the lazier and stupider you want to be, the nicer quality parts you need to buy.
-Modok

Narrowed beams, Drop adjustable spring plates, Bus disk brake and IRS kits.
www.type-emotorsports.com

Type E Engine Parts and Supplies
https://type-emotorsports.com/collections/engine-parts

[Murt]

Finally had a chance today to get the dusty old beetle up on my scissor lift in the Barn
She's very dirty, so will need to clean her up a bit

I have got a new TO bearing, and HD clips, so went to pull the one in her, and found this ? the clips holding the bearing in almost looked as if someone had 'cut' them ? how it was holding on I don't know, and that coupled with the wrong Pressure Plate, I'm surprised it hadn't gone bang !!

I now need to address lots of little jobs, like new engine seals, and look at plumbing up the thermostatic filter head and cooler. Once I've mocked that up, got the length of the hoses I need and sort out where the bracket will sit (was on the rear bumper bolts) I will remove the rear 'fenders' and the apron and get the engine back in

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1967 Kombi Splitscreen ‘Barney’
2018 VW Caddy Maxi R Line
2017 Golf GTD saloon
2008 VW EOS 2.0 TFSi

[Bobs67vwagen]

I think those are wear marks from where it rode back and forth on the operating shaft several hundred thousand times.

[Cusser]

I would only use clips with the loop in them.
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[Murt]

Hi @Bobs67vwagen.
Yes chap, I think you are correct, the chap who installed the engine, didn’t replace the TO Bearing so I suspect that it was in the Transaxle for quite a considerable amount of time

Hi @Cusser.
Totally agree and that’s another job off the list
I am looking at engine seals today
But I have a question about the clutch and pressure plate ?
I have a KEP stage 1 Plate and a Daikin clutch on hand for use, but not sure if it’s overkill for the 1776 ?

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1966 VW Beetle ‘Jules’
1967 Kombi Splitscreen ‘Barney’
2018 VW Caddy Maxi R Line
2017 Golf GTD saloon
2008 VW EOS 2.0 TFSi

[chrisflstf]

Kep stage 1 are good for the street. The cross shaft would be the weak point next as the arms can fail or break. Stronger models are better.

Also the pedal end with the hook can fail in bugs

[Bobs67vwagen]

It might not be a bad idea to pull the pedals out and look at the clutch hook. They wear pretty badly.

[Murt]

Good call Bob
Going to check that out tomorrow
I just looked at the Clutch hook repair kit from Classic bug parts out of Oregon, that looks really cool, then noticed they only do them for Left hand Drive
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1966 VW Beetle ‘Jules’
1967 Kombi Splitscreen ‘Barney’
2018 VW Caddy Maxi R Line
2017 Golf GTD saloon
2008 VW EOS 2.0 TFSi

[hulbyw]

Three years ago I decided to replace the cross shaft in my 1968 Beetle with a heavy duty one. After finding problems with several brands such as Custom and Commercial (they didn't centre the throwout bearing), I finally ordered a heavy duty one from Wolfsburg West and it fitted just like it should.

[chrisflstf]

Rancho trans makes good throw out shafts, heavy duty. So does Weddle

https://ranchotransaxles.com/product-category/clutch-components/

Mine with a factory long arm. Makes pedal pressure easier

DONT buy an empi one. Arms bent, wrong angle, clocked wrong, etc