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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2025 4:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Bigger brake booster, improved brakes. Reply with quote

I may be needing to replace my booster soon. What is the conclusion on part number, availability of the BMW or comparable upgrade? Trouble shooting has led me to have my booster/pedal assembly out, so this may be a good time for the upgrade.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Bigger brake booster, improved brakes. Reply with quote

If you wait a few days, I am hoping to see how the Honda Accord iBooster fits this weekend. With how many old restos are using the Bosch iBooster, I think it's definitely the way to go.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Bigger brake booster, improved brakes. Reply with quote

I have a iBooster out of a Tesla Model Y installed in my Doka. As far as I'm concerned these will be the future of brake upgrades. Compared to the BMW booster which I have so ran in the past the iBooster with the larger bore MC feels incredible. It feels more up to modern car standards if that makes sense.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Bigger brake booster, improved brakes. Reply with quote

4Gears4Tires wrote:
If you wait a few days, I am hoping to see how the Honda Accord iBooster fits this weekend. With how many old restos are using the Bosch iBooster, I think it's definitely the way to go.

I haven't heard anything about electric boosters yet. I'll have to search the topic. I'd like to do this once and done. Those pictures above look like there is some modifications to make, totally interested.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2025 7:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Bigger brake booster, improved brakes. Reply with quote

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I haven't heard anything about electric boosters yet. I'll have to search the Laughing topic.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2025 7:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Bigger brake booster, improved brakes. Reply with quote

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I haven't heard anything about electric boosters yet. I'll have to search the Laughing topic.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=792459&highlight=power+brake

Ah ha... Thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2025 7:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Bigger brake booster, improved brakes. Reply with quote

This is the route I would go. He’s also an active member. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2670840

Your life or others may depend on good brakes. I’m not saying the “I” brakes don’t have their place, but maybe for those that are experienced with such things. For sure the above reservoir sure looks hokey. If you want the van on the road with the least resistance, buy a new booster while you can.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:19 am    Post subject: Re: Bigger brake booster, improved brakes. Reply with quote

MarkWard wrote:
. For sure the above reservoir sure looks hokey. If you want the van on the road with the least resistance, buy a new booster while you can.


The Honda Accord model has a remote reservoir. I bought a motorcycle reservoir but I realize it's not going to be large enough. It'll be enough to move it around the yard though. I am hoping this set up will allow the cluster to sit properly without any modification.
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My thread with the install in progress.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 2:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Bigger brake booster, improved brakes. Reply with quote

For any who might be looking, I have a BMW ATE brake booster that I was planning on using and instead it looks like I'll be selling my van.

Excellent condition (OEM), pulled from an 88 528E with 108k miles, part number 34331157566. Paid $150 for it and putting it up in the classifieds shortly, feel free to message me if you have interest.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 2:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Bigger brake booster, improved brakes. Reply with quote

4Gears4Tires wrote:
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. For sure the above reservoir sure looks hokey. If you want the van on the road with the least resistance, buy a new booster while you can.


The Honda Accord model has a remote reservoir. I bought a motorcycle reservoir but I realize it's not going to be large enough. It'll be enough to move it around the yard though. I am hoping this set up will allow the cluster to sit properly without any modification.
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My thread with the install in progress.
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I know you have the skills, but you have to remember not every van owner does. I’m personally not impressed with the BMW booster install. Alika has gone to the trouble to adapt new boosters that just fit. It’s just another option. Good luck with the iBooster. It’s an interesting project.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 2:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Bigger brake booster, improved brakes. Reply with quote

If I had known Alika was making pre-modified E30 boosters I don't think I would have undertaken this project.

My skills are dubious at best. I think my strongest skill is simply failing enough times that random chance allows one success to get through. Brick wall
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 2:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Bigger brake booster, improved brakes. Reply with quote

MarkWard wrote:
This is the route I would go. He’s also an active member. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2670840

Your life or others may depend on good brakes. I’m not saying the “I” brakes don’t have their place, but maybe for those that are experienced with such things. For sure the above reservoir sure looks hokey. If you want the van on the road with the least resistance, buy a new booster while you can.


I saw his ad before I was having the issue with my booster. I've bought from him before and he has also offered help with some of my posts. Good guy, I'd say.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 3:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Bigger brake booster, improved brakes. Reply with quote

I'm trying to determine if my booster is on the way out. Since I have it out of the van now, I figured if the BMW upgrade or another booster was a better way to go, now would be a good time to pursue it. My concern is the play I get. With booster out, I can push on the "push rod" with my palm and get about a 1/4" of play before I see the rod on the MC side engage. When everything was installed, all seemed normal, until I would press the clutch in and then work the brake pedal, would I feel the play. I just never recall my van doing this in the past.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 4:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Bigger brake booster, improved brakes. Reply with quote

4Gears4Tires wrote:
If I had known Alika was making pre-modified E30 boosters I don't think I would have undertaken this project.

My skills are dubious at best. I think my strongest skill is simply failing enough times that random chance allows one success to get through. Brick wall


Hello!

No, no, they're stock size boosters, not E30 size boosters.

I went down this route after REMOVING the E30 booster on my big Jaguar brakes set up bc I felt like I was stepping in dog sh!t when I was braking Laughing
I have a 1" MC and RWC.
Now I have modern car brakes , much better feeling.

It's all about math and testing in the end....
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2025 9:59 am    Post subject: Re: Bigger brake booster, improved brakes. Reply with quote

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4Gears4Tires wrote:
If I had known Alika was making pre-modified E30 boosters I don't think I would have undertaken this project.

My skills are dubious at best. I think my strongest skill is simply failing enough times that random chance allows one success to get through. Brick wall


Hello!

No, no, they're stock size boosters, not E30 size boosters.

I went down this route after REMOVING the E30 booster on my big Jaguar brakes set up bc I felt like I was stepping in dog sh!t when I was braking Laughing
I have a 1" MC and RWC.



Now I have modern car brakes , much better feeling.

It's all about math and testing in the end....



Hello Alika,

I am very curious about your removal of the e-30 booster.

My vanagon dash is in piece and I ordered a bmw booster from a scrap yard and you make me question this choice since it is not a job I want to do it twice any time soon...

I have girling 60 at the front and small car disc at the rear. on a heavy syncro with 225-70-16 tires.

I would say that with the stock ATE booster (OEM?) , my brake pedal feel was stiff but not to the point of being annoying.

I am tempted by the e30 to have a more modern like smoother feel...

Anybody else also went on the route of going back to stock from bmw e30 with big brake kit?

I also read that early Eurovan Brake could do the trick but there is surprisingly NOT a lot of info and no How-to that I know of on how to do it...
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2025 10:12 am    Post subject: Re: Bigger brake booster, improved brakes. Reply with quote

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4Gears4Tires wrote:
If I had known Alika was making pre-modified E30 boosters I don't think I would have undertaken this project.

My skills are dubious at best. I think my strongest skill is simply failing enough times that random chance allows one success to get through. Brick wall


Hello!

No, no, they're stock size boosters, not E30 size boosters.

I went down this route after REMOVING the E30 booster on my big Jaguar brakes set up bc I felt like I was stepping in dog sh!t when I was braking Laughing
I have a 1" MC and RWC.



Now I have modern car brakes , much better feeling.

It's all about math and testing in the end....



Hello Alika,

I am very curious about your removal of the e-30 booster.

My vanagon dash is in piece and I ordered a bmw booster from a scrap yard and you make me question this choice since it is not a job I want to do it twice any time soon...

I have girling 60 at the front and small car disc at the rear. on a heavy syncro with 225-70-16 tires.

I would say that with the stock ATE booster (OEM?) , my brake pedal feel was stiff but not to the point of being annoying.

I am tempted by the e30 to have a more modern like smoother feel...

Anybody else also went on the route of going back to stock from bmw e30 with big brake kit?

I also read that early Eurovan Brake could do the trick but there is surprisingly NOT a lot of info and no How-to that I know of on how to do it...



Hello!

if your pedal is a bit hard, then an E30 booster will do the job for you. I'm surprised your pedal is hard bc you have a 60mm piston caliper like stock floating calipers...Maybe it's from the rear calipers? Weird.

The T4 Eurovan brake master is 1" but fits only with the booster, and requires a lot of mods, it's not for the faint of heart. It's been documented on German sites mostly. Not recommended
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2025 10:29 am    Post subject: Re: Bigger brake booster, improved brakes. Reply with quote

l would NEVER go back from a BMW booster to a stock one.
l've fitted 60 + to customer vans now, finding them for decent $ is the hardest part now.
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2025 10:58 am    Post subject: Re: Bigger brake booster, improved brakes. Reply with quote

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l would NEVER go back from a BMW booster to a stock one.
l've fitted 60 + to customer vans now, finding them for decent $ is the hardest part now.


That's a broad statement. It's all math/physics, it depends on your set up.
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2025 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: Bigger brake booster, improved brakes. Reply with quote

it might be, but l stand by it.
l own 3 vanagons with it on stock brakes, and the 4th has the same booster and 4 piston jaguar brakes and the appropriate rotors.
driving a vanagon on stock brakes, has me wanting to pull up on the steering wheel, while l'm trying to push the pedal through the floor.
say what you will, think what you want, that's my experience.
my syncro is kind of my demonstrator, if someone is considering a booster upgrade, l offer them to take it around the block, l've not had ANYONE say they prefer their stock brakes.
right now as they are difficult to find, l have the customer get one, than l go fit it.

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That's a broad statement. It's all math/physics, it depends on your set up.

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2025 7:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Bigger brake booster, improved brakes. Reply with quote

thanks you all folks!

I have heard mostly good things about E30 but Alika's comment (step in dog's shit, lol Wink ) made me wonder if it was the way to go.

About the 60mm piston, I am not sure what you are referring to cause the girling 60 has 2 pistons at the front (smaller than 60, if I recall right) and the small car system piston is definitely smaller than 60mm.

Also, I had to order some parts from Brickwerks recently and the owner Simon told me to "try harder" to find an E30 booster of all the options I asked advices for.

I happen to have found one last friday in a scrap yard and they will send it to me in the next few days.

The next step is to convince me that I will put that old part in my van, without much testing and that I will be really really pissed should I have to take it all after bleeding everything and putting my cluster back, etc...
I guess the most important is to make sure brake fluid did not leaked in and some mechanic today sugested me to test it with pressure (instead of vacuum) and (taper) plugging the M/C hole which I think might work, at least for major leaks/problems...

I tried to find somebody in my area (deep Canada...) that does test and renew it and after calling a few knowledgeable mechanics, it is not common at all at least in a radius of +- 200 miles of where I live...

FYI, I ordered a rockauto Cardone 53-2601 and received the crappy "generic one" with the thick black spacer. I would not say that it could not be done BUT there were a lot more challenges than the "how-to" on the internet. there is a guy on the samba that documented fitting it but AFAIK, he did not said that he got to the end. I tried to put it in the dash to begin with and I was not able to put the 2 top bolts (just one at the time) since the outside diameter of that one was interfering with the bulkead... When I have seen that, I said myself it was not worth trying modifying it and I searched the scrap yard...
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