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				|  Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |   |  
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				| 1. Hamburg Port, northern Germany, 1952 
 
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 2. Kiel Port, northern Germany
 
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	  | Volkswagen shipping to Scandinavia (Norway) from Kiel Harbour across the Baltic Sea. Picture from "Kiel Stadtarchiv / Fotoarchiv". 
 It could be that these Volkswagens were delivered to the US . The MS Norvard was a norwegian ship and maybe had a stopover in Kiel on the way from Norway to the United States
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 The US didn’t receive many Barndoor buses, did it. And if they did, it was late on in Barndoor production. These don’t appear to have rear bumpers, so early. I’d have thought it was unlikely these were for US delivery.
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:58 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |   |  
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				| Barndoor Standard, Barndoor number 10,000, February 1951 
 
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		| sled Samba Member
 
  
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				|  Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:36 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |   |  
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 From Jürgen Klein on FB:
 
 
 
 
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	  | Volkswagen shipping to Scandinavia (Norway) from Kiel Harbour across the Baltic Sea. Picture from "Kiel Stadtarchiv / Fotoarchiv". 
 It could be that these Volkswagens were delivered to the US . The MS Norvard was a norwegian ship and maybe had a stopover in Kiel on the way from Norway to the United States
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 The US didn’t receive many Barndoor buses, did it. And if they did, it was late on in Barndoor production. These don’t appear to have rear bumpers, so early. I’d have thought it was unlikely these were for US delivery.
 
 
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 yes they have 50-52 license lights so probably 1952.  Is it possible those images are reversed? otherwise they're all RHD or LH cargo doors, swedish style
 
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 1951 50
 1952 93
 1953 75
 1954 827
 
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 1951 0
 1952 110
 1953 696
 1954 730
 
 I would imagine that the US and Canada received vehicles on the same shipments.  In the early 1950's all VWs were coming through Max Hoffman in New York or through VW canada LTD in Toronto, which are somewhat near each other from a shipping perspective.
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				|  Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 5:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |   |  
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 From Jürgen Klein on FB:
 
 
 
 
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	  | Volkswagen shipping to Scandinavia (Norway) from Kiel Harbour across the Baltic Sea. Picture from "Kiel Stadtarchiv / Fotoarchiv". 
 It could be that these Volkswagens were delivered to the US . The MS Norvard was a norwegian ship and maybe had a stopover in Kiel on the way from Norway to the United States
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 The US didn’t receive many Barndoor buses, did it. And if they did, it was late on in Barndoor production. These don’t appear to have rear bumpers, so early. I’d have thought it was unlikely these were for US delivery.
 
 
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 yes they have 50-52 license lights so probably 1952.  Is it possible those images are reversed? otherwise they're all RHD or LH cargo doors, swedish style
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 I was wondering if it was reversed too but the "9" and the other lettering on the building is not reversed so I think they are all LH cargo door Buses.
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				|  Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 7:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |   |  
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I was wondering if it was reversed too but the "9" and the other lettering on the building is not reversed so I think they are all LH cargo door Buses. 
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yes they have 50-52 license lights so probably 1952.  Is it possible those images are reversed? otherwise they're all RHD or LH cargo doors, swedish style 
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	  | From Jürgen Klein on FB: 
The US didn’t receive many Barndoor buses, did it. And if they did, it was late on in Barndoor production. These don’t appear to have rear bumpers, so early. I’d have thought it was unlikely these were for US delivery. 
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	  | Volkswagen shipping to Scandinavia (Norway) from Kiel Harbour across the Baltic Sea. Picture from "Kiel Stadtarchiv / Fotoarchiv". 
 It could be that these Volkswagens were delivered to the US . The MS Norvard was a norwegian ship and maybe had a stopover in Kiel on the way from Norway to the United States
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 No mirror arm on the side without the steering wheel.
 
 These buses are bound for Sweden.
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:52 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |   |  
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				| ^Headed by a primer bus _________________
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				|  Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:32 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |   |  
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				| Barndoor inner door pressings
 1953
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 1:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |   |  
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	  | More Keetman
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				|  Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 3:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |   |  
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				| What's with the missing molding on the one in the foreground?
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |   |  
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				| ^ looks like the trim is wrapped up in the trunk 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |   |  
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	  | ^ looks like the trim is wrapped up in the trunk 
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 Hmm, interesting. Any idea what'd be the reason to do that (making a distributor/dealer do that...)?
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |   |  
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				| Delivered in Primer car? _________________
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |   |  
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	  | Delivered in Primer car? |  
 Did they have dark colored primer back then? Thought it was mainly gray?
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				|  Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:59 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |   |  
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				| Definitely yes, there were several different colors of primer used over the years, especially the early years, and in this case 1953. I have portions of a 1951 BD it's a very dark grey primer, my late 52 chassis has a medium slate grey ( also relatively dark) and then there is the lighter grey primer, typically found on NOS spare parts and undercarriage of later buses. There has also oxide brown primer been found on other buses. Since beetles and buses were prduced in Wolfsburg until early 1956, I guess its only natural to see different color primer on oval bugs as well. _________________
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	  | notice they set the floor frame on backwards for the photos.  |  Good spot
 
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				| Conny Barth delivery truck, reverse view
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 7:04 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |   |  
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				|  Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 3:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |   |  
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				| Can’t figure a way to look at it. What is it?
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				|  Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 3:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Assembly Line Pics |   |  
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