1800cc (1799cc) Engine Build

[Murt]

Hi Abscate, I hear you
I’m really blessed, my son in law and grandson came over to help me decided to also remove the heat exchangers, so grandson who’s 11 did the passenger side, while son in law did the driver’s side
4 bolts out and hey presto

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1966 VW Beetle ‘Jules’
1967 Kombi Splitscreen ‘Barney’
2018 VW Caddy Maxi R Line
2017 Golf GTD saloon
2008 VW EOS 2.0 TFSi

[early]

It's a good time to check out the Throw-out bearing, transaxle motor mounts and any other cleaning you might want to do while engine is out of the way

I mounted my elec fuel pump just above the transaxle on that angled floor pan that is basically under the seat in my westy. I added a filter in front of it. Cb electric pump has built in regulator set to 3 psi.
Also ran a relay wire to it triggered via ignition.

Oil? I ran my break In Oil for a few miles/ hours before changing it.
Cut open the filter to inspect as well.
And the oil question is always one that brings many different responses.
I won't get into that.

Cheers have fun

[Murt]

Good morning Gents
Back looking for some more advice please.
So, In the last week, I have fitted the new Carter Fuel Pump and Filter to the Bus, New Starter Motor, new bushing and new Earth Straps. I have mounted the remote filter head, I have gone for the Improved Racing one with built in thermostat, and have roughly mounted the new 25 row Setrab Oil Cooler and Spal Fan. I have also replaced the transmission seal, along with a new Throw Out bearing and clips.
My question is regarding the oil cooler, I’m assuming roughly an extra quart of oil ? I have angled it very slightly (higher at the front of the bus for air flow) and will be putting on the hoses next. My concern is that it seems to be exposed ? Do you chaps make up any sort of screening etc to protect the cooler from stones/rocks etc ?
Thanks in advance
Murt

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1966 VW Beetle ‘Jules’
1967 Kombi Splitscreen ‘Barney’
2018 VW Caddy Maxi R Line
2017 Golf GTD saloon
2008 VW EOS 2.0 TFSi

[Zed999]

Here's mine, no fan needed as I only need the cooling when I'm cruising fast in the summer. I'm UK too. I have an empi in line thermostat and the oil temp sits at about 90 degs C once warmed up and never moves. Mine's less unprotected than yours and no problem. I had the same setup on my previous bus, again no problems with damage. They hold very little oil, there's almost certainly more in the pipes.
Mine is a 2.4L type-4 in a late bay.

[early]

i mounted a similar cooler to yours, looks like about the same place.

i didnt add any extra screening but mine might set up a little higher into the frame space.

i read the cooler holds about .2 quarts and i have about 10' of line so i think less than a 1/2 quart of extra oil.

[Murt]

Thanks Guys
Much appreciated
Hi @Zed999, I'm thinking about not hooking up the fan yet as well, want to monitor it for the time being.
Hi @early I see you're using the WIX 51348, which is what I have gone with, That filter is the one recommended by Rosswulf to go with the Filter head I have.
So close to being back on the road now
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1966 VW Beetle ‘Jules’
1967 Kombi Splitscreen ‘Barney’
2018 VW Caddy Maxi R Line
2017 Golf GTD saloon
2008 VW EOS 2.0 TFSi

[Zed999]

[Glenn]

[Zed999]

[Murt]

Hi Chaps
Many thanks for the replies. So, my filter head, is the Improved Racing ENV-171-T4, which holds back (well 94-98%) of the oil back from the cooler until temperature is 185*f.

Luckily I have a small stash of AN08 fittings here including a 90, and a straight AN08 Female to AN08 Male with a 1/8 NPT port, so as we say over here, ‘in for a penny, in for a pound’ I will buy a Setrab fan switch but wanted to double check where I needed to activate the fan ? Options are 180/190/200*f, as my temperature valve in the filter head is set to 185*f +/- 2*f, should I go for 190 or 200 for the fan on ? I’m thinking that perhaps once the filter head allows 100% full flow to the cooler then the oil would be cooling a bit naturally ? Or have I got this wrong ?
Appreciate your advice
Murt

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1966 VW Beetle ‘Jules’
1967 Kombi Splitscreen ‘Barney’
2018 VW Caddy Maxi R Line
2017 Golf GTD saloon
2008 VW EOS 2.0 TFSi

[Murt]

Well
The story of the 1800cc build is coming to a close.
Today was the new Engine back in day. I was saved by my 11 year old grandson AGAIN !! I could not for the life of me get to the last bolt (Starter Motor one) could just touch it with my finger tips, but couldn't start the nut. In steps young George, arm up over the shroud, and got it straight away
Anyway, It's in at last, spent the next couple of hours on the wiring, fitting up the exhaust, and making up the rubber hanger bracket for the silencer, and basically putting it back together.
Just the Oil Hoses to hook up tomorrow, and then it's going out on the road !!

PS : Yes, First try, and I forgot to pull the throttle cable in !!! Nothing like being honest
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1966 VW Beetle ‘Jules’
1967 Kombi Splitscreen ‘Barney’
2018 VW Caddy Maxi R Line
2017 Golf GTD saloon
2008 VW EOS 2.0 TFSi

[Murt]

Still working on the Bus
Managed to sort the Throttle cable and Pedal problem, cured the leaks I had, and ran cables for Oil Temp and Oil Pressure Gauges. Only problems I have are that 1. the Temp sensor (Autometer) doesn't like my VDO gauge and 2. I still am struggling getting the carbs right. It runs great, but I keep getting random popping noises from the carbs. I've watched loads of videos, and read tons of posts, but I'm starting to think that I just don't have 'the ear' ? I may have to admit defeat on this, and try and get somebody in who has experience of setting up dual Weber's I've posted a video below so the you can hear it ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uydSuHawFs4

Anyway, at least my Oil pressure gauge is working nicely (30psi) at tickover.

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1966 VW Beetle ‘Jules’
1967 Kombi Splitscreen ‘Barney’
2018 VW Caddy Maxi R Line
2017 Golf GTD saloon
2008 VW EOS 2.0 TFSi

[Brian_e]

But have you run it down the road yet?

If not, quit messing with it, and go get the rings seated!!!

It doesn't need to be perfectly tuned, just idling and running. Go find a hill and run it hard. Sitting idling when fresh will only glaze up the cylinders, and make it harder to get the rings seated.

When you get back from some hard runs you can dink with the carbs more.

Brian
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[Murt]

Hi Brian
I hear you sir. I am absolutely desperate to get him on the road and bedded in.
It's been one problem after another, I had to go away for a few days, then throttle cable needed changing, so had to wait for that and a new throttle linkage, then Oil cooler was pissing oil from both unions, but that took 2 days to cure, so today, I'm ready as you say to stop peeing around, and get out, but we're having atrocious weather at the moment, heavy rain, with 45mph winds as soon as the weather breaks, I'm out in it
Dave
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1966 VW Beetle ‘Jules’
1967 Kombi Splitscreen ‘Barney’
2018 VW Caddy Maxi R Line
2017 Golf GTD saloon
2008 VW EOS 2.0 TFSi

[boxer74]

[Murt]

Today was the day
First run on the road, drove it reasonably hard for 10 miles, but I still don’t have the throttle returning to idle quickly enough, so some more tweaking to do, and tomorrow will try and get 20/30 mile trip under my belt. Engine sounds great ?
How long typically does it take to ensure it’s all bedded in nicely ? I really need to be getting out and about in him now.
Bus has actually not been driven since putting in the Barn last year, and even though covered up, he’s filthy

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1966 VW Beetle ‘Jules’
1967 Kombi Splitscreen ‘Barney’
2018 VW Caddy Maxi R Line
2017 Golf GTD saloon
2008 VW EOS 2.0 TFSi

[boxer74]

Well done! Bet it feels good!
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84 Westy

[Murt]

Thank you boxer74
The drive as I say went well for the first run, but was revving really high between gear changes, so need to do some more work to get it perfect, and properly drivable, carbs sounded ok as well, still getting the odd random popping noise from them ? But as brian_e said I need to stop Fu***ing about and get it driven and sort out the rest later
I am actually stoked and really pleased, and also proud to be able to say that I did it all on my own I have had Tremendous support from on here, considering that at Christmas, I had never even worked on, never mind taking an engine apart and rebuilding from scratch back then I thought deck height had something to do with boats
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1966 VW Beetle ‘Jules’
1967 Kombi Splitscreen ‘Barney’
2018 VW Caddy Maxi R Line
2017 Golf GTD saloon
2008 VW EOS 2.0 TFSi

[Brian_e]

Good job Dave!!!
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So more or less the lazier and stupider you want to be, the nicer quality parts you need to buy.
-Modok


www.type-emotorsports.com

Type E Engine Parts and Supplies
https://type-emotorsports.com/collections/engine-parts

[Murt]

Thank you Brian
Your support throughout the build has been greatly appreciated, and I’ve learned a hell of a lot.
As I said, I did give him a harsh 10 miles today, need to sort out the issues with the throttle, as was revving up to about 3.5/4k on gear change only, and you know me I am a bit of a worrier. Will try and get a decent amount of time on the road tomorrow, maybe 30/40 miles ? then hopefully it will be bedded in ? I’ve got a couple of half decent hills nearby as well.
In your opinion how long on average does it take for it to be considered as ‘run in’ ?
Cheers
Dave M
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1966 VW Beetle ‘Jules’
1967 Kombi Splitscreen ‘Barney’
2018 VW Caddy Maxi R Line
2017 Golf GTD saloon
2008 VW EOS 2.0 TFSi