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Cantfigureitout03 Samba Member
Joined: July 29, 2024 Posts: 11 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 8:48 am Post subject: Re: 67 Beetle will turn over but not start |
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Replacing the distributer did the trick! Thanks everyone. |
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Cantfigureitout03 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:24 pm Post subject: Re: 67 Beetle will turn over but not start |
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And its dead again.
Curious if anyone knows, how is the distributor grounded to the engine? Is it on the shaft it self above or below what appears to be a seal, or the little nub on the bottom of the shaft where it engages with the engine and spins? |
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mukluk Samba Member

Joined: October 18, 2012 Posts: 7379 Location: Clyde, TX
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: 67 Beetle will turn over but not start |
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The distributor grounds to the engine directly through its body to the engine case.
The coil negative/points path goes down through the green wire, through the connected wire to the points, through the movable points arm & contact to the fixed points contact & bracket, to the points plate, then to the distributor body either via direct connection as in the case of your 009 or through a flexible ground strap in the case of one with some sort of vacuum advance. _________________ 1960 Ragtop w/Semaphores "Inga" |
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sctbrd Samba Member

Joined: May 06, 2013 Posts: 257 Location: Moravia, Czech Republic
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:24 am Post subject: Re: 67 Beetle will turn over but not start |
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I always thought the ground point was the clamp (bolted to the case, tightened on the housing when setting timing). I may be wrong.
Clean the clamp hardware and the area where it clamps the body and see if that helps.
Or run a temporary ground wire from the housing to the case somewhere to see if that improves.
I have had a new condenser go bad in a very short time. Weak spark, not starting. I recently put a film capacitor on my car and it works MUCH better. Failure rate should be lower.
https://www.nonlintec.com/sprite/cap_failure/ |
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Cantfigureitout03 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:23 am Post subject: Re: 67 Beetle will turn over but not start |
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@ SCTBRD
So you went with the 224PPB102K capacitor? Did your hookup look similar to where the guy mounted it on a piece of square printed circuit board and you attached it to your coil?
I would like something more robust than the soldering of the leads to keep it in place but I guess it was good enough. How do you know which leg gets grounded to the distributer case?
I could also try this: https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-02086-Ignition-Conden...amp;sr=1-1
This is the distributer currently installed on the car.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QXXCCM2?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title |
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tasb  The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6628 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: 67 Beetle will turn over but not start |
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I would steer clear of brand new condensers. They do not have a good reputation for reliability or longevity. Look for NOS condensers. The same can be said for the distributor you are currently running. _________________ Roads Scholar
1957 Kombi low mileage 36 hp governor equipped M 178 Slow Drag Winner 2014, 2015, 2018
1965 hardtop Deluxe Microbus owned since 1990 M 620 factory 12 v 1500cc
1961 (October)Single Cab- Road Trip Workhorse
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tasb  The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6628 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:26 pm Post subject: Re: 67 Beetle will turn over but not start |
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As far as grounds on a distributor goes I would tend to agree with the clamp giving the better ground. Otherwise the distributor shaft does kind of float inside the case and the oil ring is an insulator. The tension spring between the distributor drive dog and the distributor drive gear is also a ground point. _________________ Roads Scholar
1957 Kombi low mileage 36 hp governor equipped M 178 Slow Drag Winner 2014, 2015, 2018
1965 hardtop Deluxe Microbus owned since 1990 M 620 factory 12 v 1500cc
1961 (October)Single Cab- Road Trip Workhorse
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