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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 8:48 am    Post subject: Re: 67 Beetle will turn over but not start Reply with quote

Replacing the distributer did the trick! Thanks everyone.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:24 pm    Post subject: Re: 67 Beetle will turn over but not start Reply with quote

And its dead again.

Curious if anyone knows, how is the distributor grounded to the engine? Is it on the shaft it self above or below what appears to be a seal, or the little nub on the bottom of the shaft where it engages with the engine and spins?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:41 pm    Post subject: Re: 67 Beetle will turn over but not start Reply with quote

The distributor grounds to the engine directly through its body to the engine case.

The coil negative/points path goes down through the green wire, through the connected wire to the points, through the movable points arm & contact to the fixed points contact & bracket, to the points plate, then to the distributor body either via direct connection as in the case of your 009 or through a flexible ground strap in the case of one with some sort of vacuum advance.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:24 am    Post subject: Re: 67 Beetle will turn over but not start Reply with quote

I always thought the ground point was the clamp (bolted to the case, tightened on the housing when setting timing). I may be wrong.
Clean the clamp hardware and the area where it clamps the body and see if that helps.
Or run a temporary ground wire from the housing to the case somewhere to see if that improves.

I have had a new condenser go bad in a very short time. Weak spark, not starting. I recently put a film capacitor on my car and it works MUCH better. Failure rate should be lower.

https://www.nonlintec.com/sprite/cap_failure/
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 9:23 am    Post subject: Re: 67 Beetle will turn over but not start Reply with quote

@ SCTBRD

So you went with the 224PPB102K capacitor? Did your hookup look similar to where the guy mounted it on a piece of square printed circuit board and you attached it to your coil?

I would like something more robust than the soldering of the leads to keep it in place but I guess it was good enough. How do you know which leg gets grounded to the distributer case?

I could also try this: https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-02086-Ignition-Conden...amp;sr=1-1

This is the distributer currently installed on the car.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QXXCCM2?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:21 pm    Post subject: Re: 67 Beetle will turn over but not start Reply with quote

I would steer clear of brand new condensers. They do not have a good reputation for reliability or longevity. Look for NOS condensers. The same can be said for the distributor you are currently running.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:26 pm    Post subject: Re: 67 Beetle will turn over but not start Reply with quote

As far as grounds on a distributor goes I would tend to agree with the clamp giving the better ground. Otherwise the distributor shaft does kind of float inside the case and the oil ring is an insulator. The tension spring between the distributor drive dog and the distributor drive gear is also a ground point.
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