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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Rebel Wire Questions and Pictures Reply with quote

cajun_sun_bug wrote:
Jeremy Rocks! Laughing
I have a Rebel wiring harness in another car (36 Ford) I own and Jeremy is always eager to help and super at what he does, he is a true asset to his company, one day I may replace the harness is my wife's 74 beetle and Ill buy from Rebel and Jeremy!


Thanks man! Been covered up with builds and tech the last couple weeks, but before that I got a chance to do some bench testing with the early and late model hazard switches and came up with some easier ways to wire them. Wanted to share it here. The later model switch is still easier to work with, because all the early switch can do is trigger the S terminal on the "blue box" relay. Here's a way That I came up with to easily add another flasher and only use a couple terminals of the hazard switch to simplify the wiring


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Rebel Wire Questions and Pictures Reply with quote

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Jeremy, question for you that maybe you’ve ran across before. Using the deluxe VW kit, do you think it would be possible (well anything’s possible I suppose) to also hook up semaphores in addition to turn signals? Semaphores are 6V, rest of car is 12V.


I've built a couple harnesses to add in semaphores before, and what I had to do was: Run a keyed hot wire to the turn signal switch, then come off the turn signal switch, feed the semaphores off the left and right turn wires and feed 2 different flashers (1 for left and 1 for right)...then come off the flasher load terminals directly and split off to front and rear turn signals. I think I actually found the diagram here years ago. The idea is not running the semaphore power through a flasher, so they don't flop up and down. I've heard guys say they will, and others say they won't, haven't had a set personally to play around with. Here's the diagram I based the wiring on if you want to mess around with it

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:15 am    Post subject: Re: Rebel Wire Questions and Pictures Reply with quote

Sweet Jesus....this thread is like waking up and getting the notification on your phone that today is $0.50 corn dog day at Sonic!!!
Will def be in touch. Thanks for this!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Rebel Wire Questions and Pictures Reply with quote

I've been working with Jeremy at Rebel Wire for several years now. He is the best. He has never been too busy to help me with any wiring questions at all. I now have 2 rebel wiring kits for my 2 bugs.

My 68 was restored in 2014 at which time I installed an American Auto Wire harness that I bought from Watson's.

When I went to restore my 1974 bug I contacted Watson's again with the intention of purchasing an American Auto Wire harness again and I was asked if I had looked at the wiring harnesses from Rebel. So after careful consideration I purchased a VW Deluxe wiring kit made by Rebel Wire from Watson.

The kit sat around in it's box for several years until I was at the point of wiring the bug after I got the body back on the pan and had the bug's body and paint completed.

At that time when I went to start the wiring project I had a few questions but 2 years had elapsed from the time I purchased the kit from Watson's so I took a chance and called Rebel Wire directly with the hopes of getting some support.

Well I called and Jeremy answered my call. I explained my situation and told him that I had purchased my Rebel Wiring Harness thru Watson's but he did not care and he has provided me with extensive technical support ever since.

In fact I consider Jeremy to not only be a valuable asset when it comes to wiring my cars but best of all I consider him to be a FRIEND.

I just purchased another Rebel Wiring Harness for my 68 with the intentions of taking the American Auto Wire harness out and replacing it with the Rebel Wiring Harness.

There is no comparison between the 2 harnesses. Rebel Wire's harnesses are far above in ease and quality.

Thank You Jeremy and Thank You Rebel I will be a friend and advocate of your products forever.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:58 am    Post subject: Re: Rebel Wire Questions and Pictures Reply with quote

mjkward wrote:
I've been working with Jeremy at Rebel Wire for several years now. He is the best. He has never been too busy to help me with any wiring questions at all. I now have 2 rebel wiring kits for my 2 bugs.

My 68 was restored in 2014 at which time I installed an American Auto Wire harness that I bought from Watson's.

When I went to restore my 1974 bug I contacted Watson's again with the intention of purchasing an American Auto Wire harness again and I was asked if I had looked at the wiring harnesses from Rebel. So after careful consideration I purchased a VW Deluxe wiring kit made by Rebel Wire from Watson.

The kit sat around in it's box for several years until I was at the point of wiring the bug after I got the body back on the pan and had the bug's body and paint completed.

At that time when I went to start the wiring project I had a few questions but 2 years had elapsed from the time I purchased the kit from Watson's so I took a chance and called Rebel Wire directly with the hopes of getting some support.

Well I called and Jeremy answered my call. I explained my situation and told him that I had purchased my Rebel Wiring Harness thru Watson's but he did not care and he has provided me with extensive technical support ever since.

In fact I consider Jeremy to not only be a valuable asset when it comes to wiring my cars but best of all I consider him to be a FRIEND.

I just purchased another Rebel Wiring Harness for my 68 with the intentions of taking the American Auto Wire harness out and replacing it with the Rebel Wiring Harness.

There is no comparison between the 2 harnesses. Rebel Wire's harnesses are far above in ease and quality.

Thank You Jeremy and Thank You Rebel I will be a friend and advocate of your products forever.


Thanks Mark! It was great working with you as well, and I also now consider you to be a friend. Hope all is going well on your new rewire. Just catching up on some tech...just finished up a rear mount panel for a beetle with a rotary engine and some relays mounted to the panel. I just made this new hazard wiring diagram and wanted to update it here. Always trying to find easier ways to wire these things!


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:25 am    Post subject: Re: Rebel Wire Questions and Pictures Reply with quote

Very interesting! My '73 super needs a complete re-wire, and I don't think anyone makes a complete identical replacement harness for that year. Rebel looks like a great modern option, if 'originality' isn't a concern.

Looks like I have some homework to do, and a decision to make.

Thanks for all the info!

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Rebel Wire Questions and Pictures Reply with quote

I've ran into that before, and to be honest, I don't know why there aren't harnesses offered. Most of the wiring that I've seen is pretty much the same. I've had guys use our harness for all different years and setups and haven't ran into anything really oddball that would make me understand there not being a harness offered. Maybe something weird about an alternator or certain type of voltage regulator around those years? If you have any questions on the Rebel Wire kits just let me know. I do final assembly and tech on all of the harnesses. The shop number is 423-263-5399 and the email is [email protected]
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Rebel Wire Questions and Pictures Reply with quote

Hey guys, I was helping someone with their turn signal switch and our harness, although I probably should post this in an earlier year thread, I figured this is a Rebel Wire thread... so here's the wiring on about a 58 beetle 6 wire turn signal switch, using the single 1157 bulb in the rear.




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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 11:42 am    Post subject: Re: Rebel Wire Questions and Pictures Reply with quote

Jeremy, I am getting ready to freshen up my motor and I'd like to switch to a alternator since my generator is burnt out. I am going to install the deluxe underseat kit I received from you about 6 months back, and I am wondering what amp alternator you recommend for that kit. I will probably have a stockish stereo setup (maybe 4 speakers, no amp or sub), all lights will be LEDs, couple extra offroad LED lights and a cb or GMRS radio. Other than that nothing out of the ordinary wiring wise. I see they offer 55 up to 90 amp kits, but I am just looking for your opinion. Do I need to add up all the amp on the circuit you made and go with that?

I will be using the following:

https://www.truck-lite.com/27270c.html
https://www.rigidindustries.com/360-series-360-series.html x2 or 4
https://uniden.com/products/cmx760-off-road-compact-cb-radio-with-mic-display
And a stock digital media receiver (15amp with maybe 4 speakers powered by head unit)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Rebel Wire Questions and Pictures Reply with quote

Really you’d add up the amp draw for what you’re adding to the car, but it doesn’t look like anything is a high amp draw. I’d probably just go with the 90 amp. It will only put out what’s needed by your accessories and will give you more room for add on’s later. Everything will only draw what it’s rated at and the harness will handle it. Anything high amp draw that you add you can always put on its own relay, doesn’t look like you’ll need any so far though. Let me know if you need anything else.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Rebel Wire Questions and Pictures Reply with quote

Just wanted to share my experience with Rebel wiring and Jeremy. First I feel this is a very quality harness for the price. Second I cant emphasize enough the customer service I have received. Jeremy has been quick to respond to all my questions and helped me through the while process. I wish more companys took this attitude towards their customers and this country would be unstoppable in all we do. A++
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Rebel Wire Questions and Pictures Reply with quote

Thanks, I really appreciate it! We're actually a pretty small company, smaller than anyone could ever imagine I'd say, and we enjoy what we do and enjoy working on old cars.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Rebel Wire Questions and Pictures Reply with quote

Jeremy, do you ever use threaded standoffs on the back of the fuse block to mount them to the surface? I am thinking about doing this and using machine screws through the fuse block since I am mounting mine under the seat, plus there is a quite the bundle of wires in my harness since I ordered the extras.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Rebel Wire Questions and Pictures Reply with quote

That will be fine. I’ve had guys use metal or plastic spacers with long nuts and bolts...or make brackets with welded nuts on it and long bolts. I might have some pictures of a guys beetle with an underseat panel that I can send. Derrick Johnson used the same deluxe bug underseat kit in his last beetle build and I think I’ve got some pictures of it
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Rebel Wire Questions and Pictures Reply with quote

Jeremy1984 wrote:
That will be fine. I’ve had guys use metal or plastic spacers with long nuts and bolts...or make brackets with welded nuts on it and long bolts. I might have some pictures of a guys beetle with an underseat panel that I can send. Derrick Johnson used the same deluxe bug underseat kit in his last beetle build and I think I’ve got some pictures of it


That would be cool! I built a platform for mine and like I said was thinking about using threaded standoffs to hold the actual fuse panel in place. I think I need to leave some room on the left for the defroster relay.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:46 am    Post subject: Re: Rebel Wire Questions and Pictures Reply with quote

That looks really good man! I think you've got it. Here's a couple pictures of Derrick Johnson's latest car. You might have also see his build "Das Speedster" built with a rotary engine and wired with our harness. Check out Unique Coaches on Instagram, he's got more pictures there. He made some covers for the front wiring and a false firewall in the rear, so no wiring is showing when it was finished.




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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:52 am    Post subject: Re: Rebel Wire Questions and Pictures Reply with quote

Ah I see, he made a hole through his bracket for the wires to go through. I still think I am going to use standoffs so if I have to remove the body again in the future (I.e. doing a roll cage) that I can just undo the 8 screws and the harness can go with the body. Also I will be using Deutsch connectors and making a terminal strip in the engine compartment on the firewall so I can remove the engine easily and have the harness split in that area as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:24 am    Post subject: Re: Rebel Wire Questions and Pictures Reply with quote

Jeremy, can you run a single ground up front and split it off to all the switches and gauges or do you have to use all the little ground tabs on the body? I'd rather get rid of them if I can, less chance for bad grounds and corrosion.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Rebel Wire Questions and Pictures Reply with quote

So I bought my rebel wiring kit a while back and have put off this project for a long time due to my incompetence when it comes to wiring. i thnik i have made some good head way as in mounting my fuse box and running my wires to their perspective locations. I am at a loss though as to how im hooking the majority of them up.

Do I need to run relays?
I want to run Glow shift Speedometer, Tachometer and Fuel gauge. will i run into issues with doing so?
Is there anywhere to find a wiring diagram for complete idiot? LOL

Alot of the instructions just simply dont make since to me. Thanks in advance for any and all help. also heres a few pics of said project
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:39 am    Post subject: Re: Rebel Wire Questions and Pictures Reply with quote

x10 for Jeremy and Rebel wire. I knew I didn't want a stock harness as i'm including modern elements in my bug (1957) and wanted something cleaner and easier to keep track of. I did have electrical knowledge but never an entire car and Jeremy was extremely helpful and answered everyone of my questions. I created a spreadsheet layout of the fuses to keep track of my used and unused fuses and laminated it to keep in my glovebox.
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